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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 18 Apr 2012, 6:22 pm

First topic message reminder :

Found this ZX-12 at the following QLD dealer:
Top Gun Yamaha


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http://www.bikepoint.com.au/all-bikes/dealer/details.aspx?R=12039026&ref=Item&Nne=&N=&Ns=

Of course it looks ok in the photo - but the cheap price has me wondering. If it was ok, my daughter might be interested.

Anyone had anything to do with this dealership?

Late edit, thanks to 2WA:
I don't think this has been posted before but for those amongst us who are thinking (dreaming) about adding to the fleet this website might help you decide if the bike is rideable all day or just a lap to the café. Click >>> Cycle Ergo


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Post  Ewok1958 Thu 21 Jul 2016, 6:49 pm

Damn, should not have bought that Fast Bikes magazine - am starting to like the look, and specs, of these things!  Neutral

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Post  gus Thu 21 Jul 2016, 7:40 pm

About bloody time , its still the only bike I will not sell . :DYou may save a few bucks by going the 03-05 model .
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Post  Ewok1958 Thu 21 Jul 2016, 8:28 pm

gus wrote:About bloody time , its still the only bike I will not sell . :DYou may save a few bucks by going the 03-05 model .

cheers santa
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Post  2wheelsagain Fri 22 Jul 2016, 8:50 am

Theres a nice ZX12R for sale in Sale at the moment. Razz
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Post  Ewok1958 Fri 22 Jul 2016, 9:09 am

2wheelsagain wrote:Theres a nice ZX12R for sale in Sale at the moment. Razz

That's a coincidence. The Fast Bikes mag had a back-to-back report on the Tuono, ZX-12, Ducati 748 and a GSXR-1000, not because they are the same type of bike (because clearly they are not) but because they could buy one of each for ~3k quid. But having read the report, and having a 174hp, 205kg (wet) Blade in the shed along side the Bandit, I'd not be bothered with a zx-12 now - ironic given it was the cause of this thread.  cheers
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Post  #Tag Fri 22 Jul 2016, 12:49 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:Damn, should not have bought that Fast Bikes magazine - am starting to like the look, and specs, of these things!  Neutral

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Small point to consider.
If they fall over on their right hand side they get written off - the brake lever hits first and punches through the frame. These frames are not repairable.
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Post  Bosco15 Fri 22 Jul 2016, 5:17 pm

Whatever you buy make sure it has a compliance plate/sticker. 
Buell I just got had a sticker. They don't rivet them on anymore. Without it, my fun for the weekend is a no go. 8-(
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Post  gus Fri 22 Jul 2016, 6:58 pm

That's why you glue a plate on the frame just in case the VERY Unusual happens . Not the falling over bit .
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Post  Chook Fri 22 Jul 2016, 8:51 pm

Bosco15 wrote:Whatever you buy make sure it has a compliance plate/sticker. 
Buell I just got had a sticker. They don't rivet them on anymore. Without it, my fun for the weekend is a no go. 8-(
A lot of manufacturers will issue replacement compliance plates (stickers), not all though.
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Post  Ewok1958 Thu 18 Aug 2016, 1:23 pm

I am very impressed by the test review of the MT-10 on this website:

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/Yamaha_MT-10_16.htm

A couple of things look encouraging: (1) the test rider was 6' 4" tall and still felt comfortable, (2) wet weight is well down on the Bandit at 210kg, (3) power and torque figures would keep me happy, and (4) it seems to have all of the goodies you could ask for, including snap-on panniers, optional comfy seat (what a scam), and larger screen.

If I find it is comfortable I'm going to buy one, replacing my old girl, and the Fireblade with just one bike.  Looking forward to it appearing in the dealers.  bounce
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Post  2wheelsagain Thu 18 Aug 2016, 3:42 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:I am very impressed by the test review of the MT-10 on this website:

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/Yamaha_MT-10_16.htm

A couple of things look encouraging: (1) the test rider was 6' 4" tall and still felt comfortable, (2) wet weight is well down on the Bandit at 210kg, (3) power and torque figures would keep me happy, and (4) it seems to have all of the goodies you could ask for, including snap-on panniers, optional comfy seat (what a scam), and larger screen.

If I find it is comfortable I'm going to buy one, replacing my old girl, and the Fireblade with just one bike.  Looking forward to it appearing in the dealers.  bounce

They're ugly front on though.
Get one with a quick shifter. Second best thing invented for bikes Smile
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Post  Dekenai Thu 18 Aug 2016, 5:11 pm

All I can say (MT-10 wise) is stop with the friggin' stylin' already...sometimes less is more, 

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2WA, +1 on the quickshifter...I slipped one on the Bandit a couple of weeks ago and it rocks!
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Post  reddog Thu 18 Aug 2016, 10:39 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:I am very impressed by the test review of the MT-10 on this website:

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/Yamaha_MT-10_16.htm

A couple of things look encouraging: (1) the test rider was 6' 4" tall and still felt comfortable, (2) wet weight is well down on the Bandit at 210kg, (3) power and torque figures would keep me happy, and (4) it seems to have all of the goodies you could ask for, including snap-on panniers, optional comfy seat (what a scam), and larger screen.

If I find it is comfortable I'm going to buy one, replacing my old girl, and the Fireblade with just one bike.  Looking forward to it appearing in the dealers.  bounce


Dave didn't you see the transformer at Philip island? I'm not sold on the styling, the previous fz1 looked fine to me. Anyhow don't sell the ohlins with the Bandit if you decide to post company with it Smile
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Post  Bosco15 Fri 19 Aug 2016, 6:32 am

Ewok1958 wrote:I am very impressed by the test review of the MT-10 on this website:

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/Yamaha_MT-10_16.htm

A couple of things look encouraging: (1) the test rider was 6' 4" tall and still felt comfortable, (2) wet weight is well down on the Bandit at 210kg, (3) power and torque figures would keep me happy, and (4) it seems to have all of the goodies you could ask for, including snap-on panniers, optional comfy seat (what a scam), and larger screen.

If I find it is comfortable I'm going to buy one, replacing my old girl, and the Fireblade with just one bike.  Looking forward to it appearing in the dealers.  bounce

Looks good. 
I might pick one up in seven or eight years, when the price is right. 8-)
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Post  Ewok1958 Thu 25 Aug 2016, 5:32 pm

Sat on an MT-10 today. It was not cramped at all. Probably not as fully upright in the riding position as a standard Bandit, probably more like a Bandit with Renthal ultra-low bars. It certainly didn't feel like I was leaning on my wrists.  

This one is standard. The photo has somehow got compressed.
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This one has the touring seat, panniers and touring screen.
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The rear passenger footpeg brackets would have to be removed (simple - undo 4 bolts) as you'd always be catching your boots on them. There are some weird design features, eg that projection you can see above the oil cooler (obscuring the radiator) holds the coolant overflow bottle - easy to access but strange. There is an electrical wire on the other side, down at sump level that is just dangling in the wind waiting to be ripped off if something catches it. This seems especially weird, both bikes had it. On the +ve side, the oil filter is fitted from the side (other side) and is simple to access and change.
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Post  madmax Thu 25 Aug 2016, 8:23 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:Sat on an MT-10 today. It was not cramped at all. Probably not as fully upright in the riding position as a standard Bandit, probably more like a Bandit with Renthal ultra-low bars. It certainly didn't feel like I was leaning on my wrists.  

This one is standard. The photo has somehow got compressed.
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This one has the touring seat, panniers and touring screen.
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The rear passenger footpeg brackets would have to be removed (simple - undo 4 bolts) as you'd always be catching your boots on them. There are some weird design features, eg that projection you can see above the oil cooler (obscuring the radiator) holds the coolant overflow bottle - easy to access but strange. There is an electrical wire on the other side, down at sump level that is just dangling in the wind waiting to be ripped off if something catches it. This seems especially weird, both bikes had it. On the +ve side, the oil filter is fitted from the side (other side) and is simple to access and change.

Mate, it looks like it's made from a combination of meccano and lego Shocked
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Post  gus Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:02 pm

Geez i'm getting old .
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Post  Bosco15 Sat 27 Aug 2016, 12:07 am

gus wrote:Geez i'm getting old .

Mechano is a construction toy made of metal strips, nuts and bolts. 
Lego is little plastic blocks that clip together. 
The kids, these days, love 'em.
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Post  NZspokes Sat 27 Aug 2016, 7:33 am

I like how they left the one with yellow wheels in primer so you can paint it any colour you like.  Very Happy

Here they are 3k cheaper than a new BMW S1000r. If I was going that way I would go the BMW.
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Post  reddog Sat 27 Aug 2016, 11:26 am

@ewok1958 that bike still looks like Arcee from the original transformers. It's a real mishmash, but I'd like to know what it is like to ride
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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 27 Aug 2016, 12:47 pm

reddog wrote:@ewok1958 that bike still looks like Arcee from the original transformers. It's a real mishmash, but I'd like to know what it is like to ride

I haven't ridden one yet RD. But the test report in the Pommy bike mag Fast Bikes is well worth a read. It's R1 based - slightly less rigid frame for road use. R1 suspension (fully adjustable front and back). R1 brakes with softer pads. Detuned R1 engine for more bottom end and midrange. 3 power maps and multi-level traction control (adjustable on the move as I recall). 160HP, 210kg (wet). Cruise control in 4th, 5th and 6th. Optional panniers, touring seat and multiple-screen options for touring. Optional quickshifter. Optional 12v outlet socket. 

The only criticism Fast Bikes could find was that the rear footpegs hit your boots - but they are easily removed (4 hanger bolts, not connected to anything else). I tested this in the shop and full boots would definitely hit the rear pegs. I like Fast Bikes tests - they are honest in their assessment and call a spade a spade. In the same mag there are some very disparaging comments on some very exotic sports bikes involved in the 2016 sports bike of the year.

Now I have to find one to ride (Canberra Yamaha has a test steed so I just need to get up there with my gear).  cheers

PS: Won't be looking at a BMW S1000R as no dealer down here and more than one has had top end engine problems reported. Besides, the BMW dealers fleece you for servicing costs.
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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 07 Sep 2016, 6:14 pm

It strikes me that this is a good candidate for a bike able to be put on historic reg in just a couple of years. Total cost for rego, CTP and full comprehensive - less than $150 per year in NSW. But no idea of the reputation of the dealer.

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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 21 Dec 2016, 7:57 pm

This VFR750 (RC24/36) looks pretty decent  - probably could be had for $3500 (or less).

http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-4437658/1995-Honda-VFR750F-(RC2436)/?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20available%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20in%20stock%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near%20new%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20bikes%5D%29%26%28Make%3D%5BHonda%5D%26Model%3D%5BVFR750F%20%28RC24%2F36%29%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

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Post  paul Wed 21 Dec 2016, 10:06 pm

Extremely low KM ..............hardly used
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Post  madmax Thu 22 Dec 2016, 9:05 pm

If that was closer I'd almost grab that, just for fun
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