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Post  mstrrab1992 Wed 20 May 2015, 1:42 pm

Ive now ridden my bike 400-600kms since the stage 2 dale walker upgrades and yes i do see a difference a short ride nothing was prominent but afteriding a phew hundread kms there definately is a difference.

Now my only issue is it seems my bike is chewing through the petrol no matter what fuel i put in it my first bar dissappers at 60-65kms and the fuel lighy comes on at around 170km im a little worried to push the bike past this but i dont really fancy running out of fuel.. 

And that 60-65kms for the first bar..i never took the bike over 4k rpm and it wasnt just once..it was with all 3 types of fuel more then once..so im not sure whats going on..

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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 20 May 2015, 2:08 pm

65km for the first bar was all I was getting as stock.
Have you refuelled at 170km just to see how much it takes?

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Post  reddog Wed 20 May 2015, 2:27 pm

That's good. Mine is gone by 50 or 55
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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 20 May 2015, 4:45 pm

My first light goes out at 60 something and the flashing starts at anything between 210 - 230 kms. That suggests I'd safely get to 300+ before I'd run out.
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Post  mstrrab1992 Wed 20 May 2015, 4:47 pm

Hmm i have i cant remember the figures. But stock i was getting 75-80 as far as i remember. I just don't  want to run out haha.

Does everyone fill there bike while its on the centre stand or side stand?

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Post  Chook Wed 20 May 2015, 6:11 pm

mstrrab1992 wrote:Hmm i have i cant remember the figures. But stock i was getting 75-80 as far as i remember. I just don't  want to run out haha.

Does everyone fill there bike while its on the centre stand or side stand?
I get 70-85 around town, better on a long run


re: filling up on which stand, it depends if I'm in a hurry or not
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Post  mstrrab1992 Wed 20 May 2015, 6:20 pm

Well i always fill up on the side stand im rarely in a rush to fill up but how much difference does it make filling on the centre stand?? 

Ill push it to 200kms and see how much it takes to fill as i understand its a 19Litre tank? I think most I've ever squeezed into it was 11.5 litres dont know how many kms that was tho

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Post  Chook Wed 20 May 2015, 6:23 pm

mstrrab1992 wrote:Well i always fill up on the side stand im rarely in a rush to fill up but how much difference does it make filling on the centre stand?? 

Ill push it to 200kms and see how much it takes to fill as i understand its a 19Litre tank? I think most I've ever squeezed into it was 11.5 litres dont know how many kms that was tho
As for the stand, it's probably more in my mind if i'm in a rush

70-85 is to the 1st bar, I normally do 210-230 between fills in the city, up to 320 country but usually around 280-300
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Post  mstrrab1992 Wed 20 May 2015, 6:34 pm

So how do i know how far i can take my bike before i run out? I heard theres a red flashing light then another one flashes at 1litre left in the tank??

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Post  paul Wed 20 May 2015, 6:42 pm

mstrrab1992 wrote:So how do i know how far i can take my bike before i run out? I heard theres a red flashing light then another one flashes at 1litre left in the tank??
My 1250s has an icon which flashes with about 5 1/2 ltrs left , the a second one flashes with 1 1/2 ltrs left ...............


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Post  mstrrab1992 Wed 20 May 2015, 6:43 pm

Same on a gsx 1250fa?

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Post  Cal Wed 20 May 2015, 7:35 pm

Strap a 5litre fuel can on the pillion seat and ride it till it's empty!Razz
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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 20 May 2015, 8:50 pm

mstrrab1992 wrote:So how do i know how far i can take my bike before i run out? I heard theres a red flashing light then another one flashes at 1litre left in the tank??
Fill up.
Ride 100km at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel.
Get calculator out and work out fuel economy as lt/100km.
Extrapolate that for 18lt to buy some margin of error.

No need to strap a jerry can on.

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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 20 May 2015, 9:24 pm

Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km or so at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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Post  madmax Wed 20 May 2015, 9:58 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km or so at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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Post  madmax Wed 20 May 2015, 10:00 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:65km for the first bar was all I was getting as stock.
Have you refuelled at 170km just to see how much it takes?

I did once get 165 out of the first bar on the way to Drake. I reckon the gauge was stuck Laughing
Sadly it all came back to normal as the tank got closer to empty

75km would be about the norm for me on the highway

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Post  talon440 Thu 21 May 2015, 7:56 am

Ewok1958 wrote:Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km or so at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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Using your method i did;
403ks and put in 17.3lts   (23.2)
23.2  x 19 =  442ks out of my tank, thanks for that Ewok saves me running my tank dry, but just to be safe i usually fill up around 350 to 380ks, that 40 tooth sprocket has paid for its self
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Post  Bosco15 Thu 21 May 2015, 8:09 am

Ewok1958 wrote:Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km oour normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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 But Dave, sometimes I don't go straight from A to B. Sometimes I go the scenic route via C and even D. 
So, do I divide by X or times by Y?
I never was very good at calculus. Embarassed

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Post  Ewok1958 Thu 21 May 2015, 8:22 am

lol! Bosco.

Best you just ride it!
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Post  talon440 Thu 21 May 2015, 8:28 am

for those who like calculations on here, my 40 tooth sprocket save rpms of my engine,
eg; stock say at 3000rpm, 90kph
      my bike  2700rpm same speed
over 1 hour of riding my bike has done 18,000 less rpms than stock no mater what speed
over a day ride (say 6 hours) thats 108,000 less rpms than stock
over a 7 day ride 6 hours each day thats 756,000 less rpms than stock
performance wise i dont notice any difference from stock but 6th gear is now like an overdrive 5th gear rpm is same as stock, 3000rpm 90kph, 4000rpm 120kph its not till i get into 6th that the difference is noteable 3100rpm 100kph, 4000rpm 132kph, my trip to perth took 2 weeks over and back my motor did 1,512,000 less rpms than if i had a stock rear sprocket,40 tooth sprocket saves petrol and wear on motor.
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Post  2wheelsagain Thu 21 May 2015, 8:37 am

talon440 wrote:for those who like calculations on here, my 40 tooth sprocket save rpms of my engine,
eg; stock say at 3000rpm, 90kph
      my bike  2700rpm same speed
over 1 hour of riding my bike has done 18,000 less rpms than stock no mater what speed
over a day ride (say 6 hours) thats 108,000 less rpms than stock
over a 7 day ride 6 hours each day thats 756,000 less rpms than stock
performance wise i dont notice any difference from stock but 6th gear is now like an overdrive 5th gear rpm is same as stock, 3000rpm 90kph, 4000rpm 120kph its not till i get into 6th that the difference is noteable 3100rpm 100kph, 4000rpm 132kph, my trip to perth took 2 weeks over and back my motor did 1,512,000 less rpms than if i had a stock rear sprocket,40 tooth sprocket saves petrol and wear on motor.

Saving engine wear doesnt always equate to saving fuel though. rabbit

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Post  2wheelsagain Thu 21 May 2015, 8:39 am

Ewok1958 wrote:Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km or so at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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Post  talon440 Thu 21 May 2015, 9:07 am

2wheelsagain wrote:
talon440 wrote:for those who like calculations on here, my 40 tooth sprocket save rpms of my engine,
eg; stock say at 3000rpm, 90kph
      my bike  2700rpm same speed
over 1 hour of riding my bike has done 18,000 less rpms than stock no mater what speed
over a day ride (say 6 hours) thats 108,000 less rpms than stock
over a 7 day ride 6 hours each day thats 756,000 less rpms than stock
performance wise i dont notice any difference from stock but 6th gear is now like an overdrive 5th gear rpm is same as stock, 3000rpm 90kph, 4000rpm 120kph its not till i get into 6th that the difference is noteable 3100rpm 100kph, 4000rpm 132kph, my trip to perth took 2 weeks over and back my motor did 1,512,000 less rpms than if i had a stock rear sprocket,40 tooth sprocket saves petrol and wear on motor.

Saving engine wear doesnt always equate to saving fuel though. rabbit
you are correct in saying that as there is so many other factors to throw in, but in normal touring conditions as i did and often do i allways do get better fuel consumption over stock geared bandits, tearing up a windy road with 6 of my mates the fuel consumption goes out the window, having to much fun to worry about it.
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Post  paul Thu 21 May 2015, 9:55 am

Ewok1958 wrote:Just to add to 2WA's comments

Fill up.
Ride 100km or so at your normal style.
Ride back.
Refuel. 


Divide the number of kms ridden by the amount of fuel (in litres) that you put in.  Let's call that result "A".

Multiply A by 18 to get a conservative maximum distance from a tank full.  Multiply A by 19 to get your theoretical maximum distance.

Noting Barry's post above.  Multiply A by 5.5 (call that "B") - that is how many more kms you've got when the light starts flashing, ie add B to your odometer reading when the light starts flashing and that's how far you can go before you run out of fuel on that tank.

And if you multiply A by 1.5 then that's how many kms you've got left in the tank when the last bar drops off the display.  

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I would hope your calculations are more accurate  than the persons name of the" post above "you referred to , or he had better pack his hiking boots Razz lol! lol!

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Post  mstrrab1992 Thu 21 May 2015, 11:36 am

Hi im simple simon cyclops

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