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Post  gus Mon 17 Oct 2011, 1:30 pm

I hated this fuel guage at the start .Now i hate it even more.When the last bars flash there is over 100 kls left , way to many to stop .
When i notice the last bar and bouser flash together there could be less than 20 kls .to little .
I have run out of fuel more times on this bike than any other .Looking at the manual it seem to operate buy a float on an arm .
If i was to bend the arm and float UP the bouser and last block should flash earlier leaving say 50 kls .
Get the idea .How does this sound ,have i missed something ?
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Post  reddog Mon 17 Oct 2011, 3:27 pm

Read the manual Gus. The last bar flashing is get to a fuel station quick smart as you have 4 litres left. No bars flashing means theres about a litre left as far as I can remember. The orignal Bandit with analogue guage is a much better idea than digital. It's be better if the digital was in percentage rather than bars
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Post  chips Mon 17 Oct 2011, 4:26 pm

just ignore the gauge and city riding fill up at 250-300 and freeway fill up at 400 :-)
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Post  gus Mon 17 Oct 2011, 4:58 pm

I have red Very Happy the manual Reddod. Laughing Last bar flashes with 5.5 ltr left .At touring speed thats over 100 kls left .Hardly panic stations , i can make the
next town with that .
Just tell me when i have 3 ltr left would be better ,not 5.5 and 1.5 .One .5 should say affraid

Chips if its on my bike its got to work properly . I carnt ignore it ,it like snoring ,you just carnt ignore it .

I'm bending the float arm .
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Post  dhula Mon 17 Oct 2011, 8:16 pm

If you know there is 5.5 litres left when last bar flashes and that will be ~100kms, why change anything as you know what it all means.

Unless you're looking for something to do of course, but IMO leave it alone. It works, you know what it tells you, no need to fix it.

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Post  Reardo Mon 17 Oct 2011, 8:26 pm

dhula wrote:If you know there is 5.5 litres left when last bar flashes and that will be ~100kms, why change anything as you know what it all means.

Unless you're looking for something to do of course, but IMO leave it alone. It works, you know what it tells you, no need to fix it.
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Post  gus Mon 17 Oct 2011, 8:29 pm

100 kls touring but how many going for it .
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Post  paul Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:02 pm

gus wrote:100 kls touring but how many going for it .


that would depend if you`re a sprinter or a stayer Wink

if you really give it shit you may only get 12 km/per ltr or less so maybe 50 - 60 km
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Post  mtbeerwah Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:05 pm

so i`m guessing you injected fellas don`t have a reserve on your fuel tap?
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Post  paul Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:09 pm

mtbeerwah wrote:so i`m guessing you injected fellas don`t have a reserve on your fuel tap?


nope Crying or Very sad
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Post  2wheelsagain Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:17 pm

paul wrote:
mtbeerwah wrote:so i`m guessing you injected fellas don`t have a reserve on your fuel tap?


nope Crying or Very sad
No cold start choke either. Jealous? Laughing
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Post  mtbeerwah Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:18 pm

that sux,my oil burners gauge is pretty consistant,but i don`t use it, i go by my reserve, with out fail if i fill up at the reserve point, it always gives me 5.4L ,and I know exactly how far I can go,with out the worry of the gauge shitting itself, or being inaccurate.
paul wrote:
mtbeerwah wrote:so i`m guessing you injected fellas don`t have a reserve on your fuel tap?


nope Crying or Very sad
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Post  paul Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:24 pm

mtbeerwah wrote:that sux,my oil burners gauge is pretty consistant,but i don`t use it, i go by my reserve, with out fail if i fill up at the reserve point, it always gives me 5.4L ,and I know exactly how far I can go,with out the worry of the gauge shitting itself, or being inaccurate.
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mtbeerwah wrote:so i`m guessing you injected fellas don`t have a reserve on your fuel tap?


nope Crying or Very sad


modern technology ! Rolling Eyes

ps yep love the no choke though ! Smile
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Post  mtbeerwah Tue 18 Oct 2011, 12:03 am

yeah..well the choke is a pain in the..and vapour lock with carbs is the same..but i do have a reserve!
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Post  Hammy Tue 18 Oct 2011, 8:28 am

Surely when the last bar flashes, that is ample warning to know that you will have to pull in at the next bowser or two. A quick look at one of the 2 trip meters could let you know how many ks are left, give or take. I think fiddleing with the float could lead to more trouble.
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Post  gus Tue 18 Oct 2011, 8:39 am

That assuming you filled the tank .I dont have any cards so i might only have $2o .
$15 fuel gives me a ride and $5 a coffee . I just carnt bring myself to fuel up when i
have 100 kl still in the tank .Like i said this guage sucks .Though it appears i stand
alone . Very Happy Tank about to be taken off .
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Post  Kaupy1962 Tue 18 Oct 2011, 9:15 am

I had a look in the tank when the last bar flashes. The fuel level is about 8mm from the bottom of the tank. I reckon I'd only get another 50ks at most out of that.
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Post  Hammy Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:05 am

I dont see how you can alter the float level reading for the last "bar", without effecting the reading of a full tank. Will wait and see the outcome of Gus's tinkering.
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Post  mtbeerwah Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:35 am

I think I understand your theory,although I wouldn`t do it. How much do you intend to bend the arm? If you know how much you can get out of the bike, and the gauge is pissing you off, put a piece of fashionable tape over the bars,or better yet, take it off and throw it away.
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Post  gus Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:52 am

My thinking (and i could be very wrong ,but at least its thinking ) Bend arm UP ,meaning float height is higher .Fill tank,fuel will just over take
float .I mean when you fill, you look in the tank, not at the guage .
When the elec . connection is made with 1.5 lt left the float height will be higher giving you more fuel .

But does the float height work in 1.5lt thats stuff all !
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Post  b12mick Tue 18 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

I've never trusted fuel guages. When I get a new vehicle (car or bike) for the first month or so I work out the minimum range I can get from a tank and then fill up at about that distance. I've been caught out in the past, in a car not on the bike. I thought I had enough fuel to get to the next town, while I thought right and indeed did make the next town, the town didn't have a service station. So going cap in hand to a few locals (farmers) saw me putting in 15 litres so I could get to the next town, which they assured me had a service station that was open.
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Post  reddog Tue 18 Oct 2011, 3:23 pm

I wouldn't piss about with the fuel sender at all.

I'm with B12mick on this one, I zero my trip meter everytime I fill up. I know the minimum normally is around the 250 mark these days in normal road riding conditions, although I have seen just over 110Kms to dead empty before as well Smile

If you rely on the fuel guage then good stuff. I'd rather be watching Kms since last fuel stop.
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Post  gus Tue 18 Oct 2011, 7:34 pm

This is the float and sender ,Very basic .(like me Very Happy )
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Seeing i'm having problems getting the right resistor for the pair system, and i broke the porcelain resistor Evil or Very Mad on the heated grips ,so i have
to get another one for that .I figured 2 problems were enough at one time so i put it back together as is .I did clean the 2 fuel filters and
swilled out the tank .Pretty clean but not perfect .
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Post  Jimcoleman Tue 18 Oct 2011, 7:56 pm

its sounds like what my wife tells me when she runs out of petrol in the car, E is for empty not enough

oops sorry for the sarcasm just couldnt help my self
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Post  dhula Tue 18 Oct 2011, 8:45 pm

if you do end up messing with the float, you'll end up messing with the next owner.


IMO go and have a crank, it's more productive

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