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Post  gus Thu 26 May 2011, 5:57 pm

First topic message reminder :

After 4 days trying to fix my ruining problems of no power, top speed of 10 kph OR 110 kph and no acceleration. I traced the fault to the fuel pump assembly. Sometimes it would work, other times it wouldn't. Pressure was either good or poor. It looked like a dodgy fuel pump which Suzuki want $700. If i had taken it to a dealer they would have replaced the assembly which would have fixed the problem but cost me $1000.

I'm unemployed at the moment so that was out of the question. I doubt VERY much I'm the only person to have this problem in the past
or future.

Photos and instructions following Smile


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Post  paul Wed 28 Jan 2015, 9:14 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:Gus, the Bandit fuel pump legend, is owed!!  Very Happy
 Big time ! ............. Very Happy
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Post  gus Thu 29 Jan 2015, 5:55 pm

Did I tell you about the time I put the front side panels (plastic ) in the oven (on extra low ) to help dry the paint . I opened the oven after 5 mins to find the panel had shrunk to half its size .
Some things work ,some don't . Laughing
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Post  paul Thu 29 Jan 2015, 5:59 pm

gus wrote:Did I tell you about the time I put the front side panels (plastic ) in the oven (on extra low ) to help dry the paint . I opened the oven after 5 mins to find the panel had shrunk to half its size .
Some things work ,some don't . Laughing
My kids used to do that at school with chip / shapes packets to make key ring tags out of them..
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Post  Chook Thu 29 Jan 2015, 6:04 pm

paul wrote:
gus wrote:Did I tell you about the time I put the front side panels (plastic ) in the oven (on extra low ) to help dry the paint . I opened the oven after 5 mins to find the panel had shrunk to half its size .
Some things work ,some don't . Laughing
My kids used to do that at school with chip / shapes packets to make key ring tags out of them..
I don't think my kids have ever even heard of that, our class rooms had old oil burning heaters, we used to do it all the time  Very Happy
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Post  paul Thu 29 Jan 2015, 6:10 pm

Chook wrote:
paul wrote:
gus wrote:Did I tell you about the time I put the front side panels (plastic ) in the oven (on extra low ) to help dry the paint . I opened the oven after 5 mins to find the panel had shrunk to half its size .
Some things work ,some don't . Laughing
My kids used to do that at school with chip / shapes packets to make key ring tags out of them..
I don't think my kids have ever even heard of that, our class rooms had old oil burning heaters, we used to do it all the time  Very Happy
We had a wood heater at Forbes primary...................I think my kids teacher must have done it as well when they were young  Laughing
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Post  sb1250 Thu 29 Jan 2015, 7:59 pm

Paul

Ewok1958 wrote:Gus, the Bandit fuel pump legend, is owed!!  Very Happy
 Big time ! ............. Very Happy
Absolutely!! Fuel vouchers? Bunnings gift cards? Funds deposited into Gus' account? A scone tab at Gus' favourite scone shop??
Your choice Gus.........Smile
PM me your details.
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Post  gus Thu 29 Jan 2015, 8:27 pm

I'm not a big achiever in life . Knowing I got some small thing right to help someone out  is gratitude enough . Laughing
Maybe when I die and get to the " Pearly Gates " I can say "Don't ride a 1250 Bandit do you ?" Laughing Laughing
He Will probably be a Harley man so ill be stuffed though . Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post  2wheelsagain Fri 30 Jan 2015, 11:27 am

gus wrote:I'm not a big achiever in life . Knowing I got some small thing right to help someone out  is gratitude enough . Laughing
Maybe when I die and get to the " Pearly Gates " I can say "Don't ride a 1250 Bandit do you ?" Laughing Laughing
He Will probably be a Harley man so ill be stuffed though . Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

It wouldnt matter Gus. You'd make it on 1 tank on your Bandit. That would impress the gate keeper enough Laughing
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Post  paul Fri 30 Jan 2015, 6:26 pm

I don't think Harleys are welcome in heaven Gus after Arthur pulled this little stunt................. Laughing  



Arthur Davidson of the Harley Davidson Motorcycle Corporation, dies and goes to heaven. At the gates, an angle tells Davidson, "Well, you've
been such a good guy and your motorcycles have changed the world. As a reward, you can hang out with anyone you want to in Heaven."
Davidson thinks about it and says, "I wanna hang out with God, Himself".
The befeathered fellow at the Gates takes Arthur to the Throne Room and introduces him to God.
Arthur then asks God, "Hey, aren't you the inventor of Woman?"
God says " Ah, yes."
"Well," says Davidson, "You have some major flaws in your invention.
Number 1 is there's too much front end protrusion, secondly, it chatters at high speeds, number 3 the rear end wobbles too much, and fourth the intake is placed too close to the exhaust."
"Hmmmmm...." replies God, "hold on." God goes to the Celestial Super computer, types in a few keystrokes, and waits for the result. The computer prints out a slip of paper and God reads it.
"It may be than my invention is flawed," God replies to Arthur Davidson, "but according to My Computer, more people are riding my invention than yours."
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Post  madmax Thu 19 Feb 2015, 3:12 pm

I carried out Gus's fuel pump fix this morning, after my mechanic suggested the tea-bag filter could have been the cause of the hesitation I had a few weeks ago.

This was what the tea- bag looked like after 32000 ks
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The only thing I did different to Gus's instructions was i used Clean-R-Carb by CRC to wash out the internal filter and replaced the tea-bag with a new genuine one, $38 ouch.

You can buy a pump with a filter on ebay for $37 but I wanted it today Neutral
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Post  paul Thu 19 Feb 2015, 6:24 pm

The teabag one looks like it's done its job well  Shocked
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Post  madmax Thu 19 Feb 2015, 10:31 pm

paul wrote:The teabag one looks like it's done its job well  Shocked

Goes to show how bad our fuel is
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Post  Chook Fri 20 Feb 2015, 5:59 am

or how bad the tanks are at the outlets we buy it from
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Post  Ewok1958 Fri 20 Feb 2015, 7:16 am

Or, an even bigger question, "Why isn't the fuel filter in the maintenance schedule?"
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Post  #Tag Fri 20 Feb 2015, 8:15 am

The service interval for the tea bag is buried in some obscure place in the manual somewhere and given as 48000k.

The filters look like clogged old teabags after the first 1000k and look exactly the same at 48000k
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Post  Kiwisteve Fri 20 Feb 2015, 7:42 pm

Fuel pumps? Tea bag filters? Lint in the filters? My bike eats that shit before breakfast! Very Happy
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Post  paul Fri 20 Feb 2015, 8:36 pm

Kiwisteve wrote:Fuel pumps? Tea bag filters? Lint in the filters? My bike eats that shit before breakfast! Very Happy
Isn't there a saying ................you are what you eat ? Razz Razz Laughing
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Post  spanna Fri 20 Feb 2015, 8:56 pm

MM I recall you saying you fill your bike from fuel kept in jerry cans.
There not those arrmy disposal metal ones are they?
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Post  madmax Fri 20 Feb 2015, 10:53 pm

spanna wrote:MM I recall you saying you fill your bike from fuel kept in jerry cans.
There not those arrmy disposal metal ones are they?

No plastic ones and the fuel is never very old
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Post  madmax Fri 20 Feb 2015, 10:56 pm

According to the mechanic at the dealership it is a very common problem, through most of the EFI bikes including gixxers and boulevards.
Often changing these filters much earlier than mine was.
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Post  Re-Cycled Fri 20 Feb 2015, 10:59 pm

madmax wrote:
spanna wrote:MM I recall you saying you fill your bike from fuel kept in jerry cans.
There not those arrmy disposal metal ones are they?

No plastic ones and the fuel is never very old

I'm sure I saw a funnel with a filter somewhere, since you're already filling manually...
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Post  2wheelsagain Sun 22 Feb 2015, 1:51 pm

This thread structure has been changed and hopeful improved.
A couple of other posts in this thread have had minor edits to reflect the changed structure.
No offence intended if any has been taken. 

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Post  jopawa Tue 14 Apr 2015, 5:13 am

gus wrote:After 4 days trying to fix my ruining problems of no power, top speed of 10 kph OR 110 kph and no acceleration. I traced the fault to the fuel pump assembly. Sometimes it would work, other times it wouldn't. Pressure was either good or poor. It looked like a dodgy fuel pump which Suzuki want $700. If i had taken it to a dealer they would have replaced the assembly which would have fixed the problem but cost me $1000.

I'm unemployed at the moment so that was out of the question. I doubt VERY much I'm the only person to have this problem in the past
or future.

Photos and instructions following Smile

Pertaing to the "CAP" of the fuel pump where you use your copper wire....  Could you poke holes in that screen and install an In Line Furl filter?

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Post  gus Wed 27 May 2015, 4:02 pm

You could but is there any benefit ? Holes in a part and costs money . I only ever had to clean the mesh once ,after that (40,000kl) it was fine .
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Post  FrankenFairing Sat 30 May 2015, 11:18 pm

Thank you so much Gus!! I've got an '11 FA with about 50K on it. Same thing precisely as you described it. Mechanic assured me he'd cleaned out the whole pump assembly twice and I defo needed a new or 2nd hand pump. Asked him about the picture you showed and he asked "what's down there?" so I knew he hadn't done it. Followed your instructions, super easy, running better than I ever remember!! Saved me $800! Legend!!

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