Chain Cleaning - Removal?
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Chain Cleaning - Removal?
Ewok1958 Thu 19 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm
This is probably a dumb question and may have been covered before (seems to be lots of threads about chains), but if I want to take the chain off to give it a really good clean, do I have to break the chain or can it be removed in tact? Hope this isn't a completely stupid question.
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Re: Chain Cleaning - Removal?
madmax Thu 19 Jun 2014, 10:27 pm
I cleaned my chain by taking the wheel off. Then putting a container under the swing arm I could then immerse part of the chain. Clean each section and move the chain on to a new section. Worked well
Remember to give it a real thorough lube afterwards. I did mine 3 times
Remember to give it a real thorough lube afterwards. I did mine 3 times
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reddog Fri 20 Jun 2014, 12:54 am
If you want to totally remove it then it's angle grinder time
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Bosco15 Fri 20 Jun 2014, 6:13 am
madmax wrote:I cleaned my chain by taking the wheel off. Then putting a container under the swing arm I could then immerse part of the chain. Clean each section and move the chain on to a new section. Worked well
Remember to give it a real thorough lube afterwards. I did mine 3 times
My method of choice, too.
Ice cream container and a toothbrush. Chain in the metho and scrub away.
Be sure to use something that won't harm the rubber orings. Give it a good drying and lube, as Max said.
Clean your tooth brush well, afterwards. I could taste metho for weeks, the first time I did mine.
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Hammy Fri 20 Jun 2014, 6:37 am
madmax wrote:I cleaned my chain by taking the wheel off. Then putting a container under the swing arm I could then immerse part of the chain. Clean each section and move the chain on to a new section. Worked well
Remember to give it a real thorough lube afterwards. I did mine 3 times
Ditto.
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Hammy Fri 20 Jun 2014, 6:38 am
Bosco15 wrote:madmax wrote:I cleaned my chain by taking the wheel off. Then putting a container under the swing arm I could then immerse part of the chain. Clean each section and move the chain on to a new section. Worked well
Remember to give it a real thorough lube afterwards. I did mine 3 times
My method of choice, too.
Ice cream container and a toothbrush. Chain in the metho and scrub away.
Be sure to use something that won't harm the rubber orings. Give it a good drying and lube, as Max said.
Clean your tooth brush well, afterwards. I could taste metho for weeks, the first time I did mine.
So that's where you got the nickname "Metho Breath".
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BanditDave Fri 20 Jun 2014, 6:39 am
I understand that kerosene is the cleaner of choice as it is compatible with chain oil and is itself a lubricant.
Also use your wife/partners toothbrush to avoid any aftertaste.
Just a further thought, how difficult would it be to remove the swing arm assembly and thus completely release the chain. This would also be a great time to grease the swing arm bushes as they wouldn't have been greased since the bike was first assembled
Also use your wife/partners toothbrush to avoid any aftertaste.
Just a further thought, how difficult would it be to remove the swing arm assembly and thus completely release the chain. This would also be a great time to grease the swing arm bushes as they wouldn't have been greased since the bike was first assembled
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#Tag Fri 20 Jun 2014, 9:39 am
Can be done BD. You just remove the wheel , the rear shock and then the swing arm. And you'll need a 3/4" drive socket set, a dirty great breaker bar and a torque wrench Should take 6-8 hours all up, tops. But like you said very few bikes get their suspension bearings done.
You've never considered my method of chain maintenance Dave?
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You've never considered my method of chain maintenance Dave?
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Hammy Fri 20 Jun 2014, 9:55 am
I think you will find he is an Alien. One of Gus's mates. 
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barry_mcki Fri 20 Jun 2014, 10:27 am
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2wheelsagain Fri 20 Jun 2014, 11:04 am
I have a special 3 sided brush that cost me all of $8 on eBay.
Dip it in kero and brush the crap off the chain. Wipe down with partners best knickers to remove any lose grit and re lube. Wipe any excess spatter off with same knickers then hide them.
Takes all of 15 minutes.
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Dip it in kero and brush the crap off the chain. Wipe down with partners best knickers to remove any lose grit and re lube. Wipe any excess spatter off with same knickers then hide them.
Takes all of 15 minutes.
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reddog Fri 20 Jun 2014, 11:49 am
Or you can use a kettenmax chain cleaner. They work really well
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/kettenmax-chain-cleaner/
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/kettenmax-chain-cleaner/
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gazzar Fri 20 Jun 2014, 12:06 pm
Just put a Scott oiler on .............. no more fucking around, it cleans its self. O ya rim may get a bit dirty, but ya can live it...................... 
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reddog Fri 20 Jun 2014, 5:33 pm
+1 Gazzar. The scottoiler is a good thing. You just need to kero the rims occasionally. Fixes chains with sticky links too
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Ewok1958 Fri 20 Jun 2014, 6:24 pm
Thanks guys for the assist. Does a sott oiler work if you have to ride on dusty gravel to exit and enter the property. About 4 kms.
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gazzar Fri 20 Jun 2014, 8:07 pm
Ewok1958 wrote:Thanks guys for the assist. Does a sott oiler work if you have to ride on dusty gravel to exit and enter the property. About 4 kms.
yep...........
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paul Fri 20 Jun 2014, 8:20 pm
Ewok1958 wrote:Thanks guys for the assist. Does a sott oiler work if you have to ride on dusty gravel to exit and enter the property. About 4 kms.
You could always move your gate closer to your house ..............
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Bosco15 Fri 20 Jun 2014, 8:25 pm
BanditDave wrote:I understand that kerosene is the cleaner of choice as it is compatible with chain oil and is itself a lubricant.
Also use your wife/partners toothbrush to avoid any aftertaste.
Just a further thought, how difficult would it be to remove the swing arm assembly and thus completely release the chain. This would also be a great time to grease the swing arm bushes as they wouldn't have been greased since the bike was first assembled
Nice one, Dave.
I couldn't remember if it was metho or kero.
They all taste the same with orange juice, anyway.
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paul Fri 20 Jun 2014, 8:28 pm
Bosco15 wrote:BanditDave wrote:I understand that kerosene is the cleaner of choice as it is compatible with chain oil and is itself a lubricant.
Also use your wife/partners toothbrush to avoid any aftertaste.
Just a further thought, how difficult would it be to remove the swing arm assembly and thus completely release the chain. This would also be a great time to grease the swing arm bushes as they wouldn't have been greased since the bike was first assembled
Nice one, Dave.
I couldn't remember if it was metho or kero.
They all taste the same with orange juice, anyway.
You water it down with orange juice
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#Tag Fri 20 Jun 2014, 9:47 pm
Ewok1958 wrote:Thanks guys for the assist. Does a sott oiler work if you have to ride on dusty gravel to exit and enter the property. About 4 kms.
I've been past your front gate twice this week. Not much dust to be seen at the moment. Does anybody know a good baked on clay removal tool for Ewok's chain?
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paul Fri 20 Jun 2014, 9:54 pm
!Tag wrote:Ewok1958 wrote:Thanks guys for the assist. Does a sott oiler work if you have to ride on dusty gravel to exit and enter the property. About 4 kms.
I've been past your front gate twice this week. Not much dust to be seen at the moment. Does anybody know a good baked on clay removal tool for Ewok's chain?
I ride daily , & clean the chain ( reasonably ) regularly with a container of kero and a paint brush .............f#@k taking the wheel out or chain off every month or so in the winter when the roads get shitty to clean it . .............do it often enough & you will minimise wear , ( I know , I have a way with words , ..............red wine will do that LOL ) Sorry nearly forgot.............
( in the old days/ pre non clip and " o " ring etc chains , they used to boil chains in oil to clean them etc ..............thank Christ for modern technology )
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jstava Sat 21 Jun 2014, 4:44 pm
My variation: cardboard box folded up against the wheel/tyre - prevents contaminating the tyre while keroing the chain. Yeah, brush and kero over a shallow old baking tray (bigger than a ice cream tray) and cheaper at the local op shop than ice cream. Yeah toothbrush. Harder, bigger brushes can push grit down into the o-rings. If one does this fairly regularly (5-10k km) its not a big effort with a toothbrush, or a nail brush (like for using on your hands) especially comparing to pulling a wheel or chain for the clean. Once or twice a year, I'll pull the countershaft cover for a clean, but just pick the majority of the grit and shit out of there with a pallet knife (artists tool) and let it go at that. There is little point in making it spotless under there. That's where the chain oil atomises and covers the outside of the chain and where grit inevitably gets tossed by the chain where it sticks.
I've got an oiler, live down a gravel road. I still get a bit of a build up on the chain side plates from the ride in and out, and I run my chain "a little wet" to be on the safe side.
I'm not sure whether the dust build up on the outside of the side plates is because of this and have considered running the oiler "a little dry" to avoid wetting the outside as much, but figure it's the O-rings that matter and they are better wetter than drier to keep in good nick.
The occasional wipe of wheel and swing arm with a cloth with a little kero in it is a small penalty for the convenience of the constant chain lubrication that an auto-oiler provides, not to mention chain/sprocket longevity, ease of cleaning, as the oil is comparatively light compared to most spray-ons and is much easier to clean off things even when old and full of dirt and grit.
I'd not consider removing a chain or wheel or both in order to clean the chain
I've got an oiler, live down a gravel road. I still get a bit of a build up on the chain side plates from the ride in and out, and I run my chain "a little wet" to be on the safe side.
I'm not sure whether the dust build up on the outside of the side plates is because of this and have considered running the oiler "a little dry" to avoid wetting the outside as much, but figure it's the O-rings that matter and they are better wetter than drier to keep in good nick.
The occasional wipe of wheel and swing arm with a cloth with a little kero in it is a small penalty for the convenience of the constant chain lubrication that an auto-oiler provides, not to mention chain/sprocket longevity, ease of cleaning, as the oil is comparatively light compared to most spray-ons and is much easier to clean off things even when old and full of dirt and grit.
I'd not consider removing a chain or wheel or both in order to clean the chain
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Chook Sat 21 Jun 2014, 6:41 pm
have you been spying on mejstava wrote:My variation: cardboard box folded up against the wheel/tyre - prevents contaminating the tyre while keroing the chain. Yeah, brush and kero over a shallow old baking tray (bigger than a ice cream tray) and cheaper at the local op shop than ice cream. Yeah toothbrush.
That's exactly how I do it, I also use a piece of cut to size, folded cardboard to protect everything else when I'm spraying on the chain wax
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