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Post  gus Sun 29 Jan 2012, 5:51 pm

There is a new add on T.v (S.E. Qld ) for a Harley dealership in Mackay .(Mining town now ). They show various Harley's with a sale pitch.
Nothing new about that but they all look really dated .Not just retro styling but old and dated .(like a mullet haircut ).
How long can the "look " last ? Volvo changed ,BMW changed its image but Harley seems stuck .Average Harley rider 45 years old
it Carnot last , can it ?
Its like watching "The Wiggles " when they are 60 doing the same act .

This is an observation not just a Harley "bash ".

Harley in Superbikes ,oh yes please .
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Post  Jimcoleman Sun 29 Jan 2012, 5:55 pm

Cannot understand why you would pay huge money for pre 60's technology, on a thing that will only idle at half throttle, won't go around corners, or stop and is just plain ugly

Men with very small penises
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Post  paul Sun 29 Jan 2012, 6:59 pm

I have noticed a growing number of people talking about them like Jim has just done in his post / They seem to be losing that " in " image with a lot of people .
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Post  Cameron Sun 29 Jan 2012, 7:21 pm

My father has always had awesome jap bikes. 2 years ago he went out and baught a brand new Harley (he still has a Honda as well though).

Being 19 then, i thought what the hell...now im 21 and all grown up...i can say i will have one, one day Very Happy
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Post  2wheelsagain Sun 29 Jan 2012, 7:24 pm

Gus got himself started Laughing Very Happy
There ate a few manufacturers trading on the "Retro theme" and doing quite well.
HD have improved their engineering reliability out of sight in the last 10 years.
There are a couple that could live in my shed including the VRod (not HD powered)
They don't need to handle just like Bandits don't need to do 300km/h. They fulfill their design brief.
We do make fun of them though Laughing
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Post  madmax Sun 29 Jan 2012, 7:27 pm

Jimcoleman wrote:Cannot understand why you would pay huge money for pre 60's technology, on a thing that will only idle at half throttle, won't go around corners, or stop and is just plain ugly

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Its just a name thing. A mate of mine wants to buy a softtail. I suggested a secondhand C109R with 2500ks on it. Immaculate bike with all the accessories. He wasn't interested just said he had his heart set on a Harley
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Post  Jimcoleman Sun 29 Jan 2012, 7:40 pm

4wheelsagain wrote: They fulfill their design brief.
We do make fun of them though Laughing

and what would that be ! a garage ornament
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Post  gus Sun 29 Jan 2012, 8:05 pm

Maybe its the add .The shots are very ordinary .Holdenman will have seen it .
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Post  chips Sun 29 Jan 2012, 9:33 pm

I wouldn't want one, but only for the same reaons I won't have a BMW, Merc, (Anything french), etc

I'll stick to Japanese, and possibly american. Although I have urchased a chinese scooter before, and an american car...
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Post  Tommo1965 Sun 29 Jan 2012, 11:16 pm

LMAO

I just came from a 7 year stint on a cruiser {not harley} to a bandit..Im 46..the cruiser made me feel my age..the bandit makes me feel like Im 18 again...why o why did I wait so long...I see many cruiser riders of my age group..most are trying to capture the James Dean/Marlon Brando image....it certainly aint for the joys of riding... I've found that again on a humble bandit...and its fucking great

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Post  Kaupy1962 Mon 30 Jan 2012, 9:48 am

Yep. I think it's time harley stopped stuffin' about and built a sports bike, a real one. Nobody say Buell either.
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Post  Hammy Mon 30 Jan 2012, 10:17 am

I think HD will stick with what has worked for them for so long. Their sales figures are the envy of all other manufacturers. Fact. 75% of their sales are at home. That is amazing. They have just recently moved into India. Wow. Probably China next. Would I buy one? No way. Would I buy one if I was an American living in America? Shit yeh. Have you seen some of their roads ?
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Post  herzog Sat 11 Feb 2012, 3:15 pm

I have a love hate relationship with Hogs. I like to own them but I don't like to maintain them or ride them in traffic. They are for cruising when you have extra time and money. Japanese bikes, whether we like it or not, are more reliable and better value for money but many will still ridicule those who ride a Japanese cruiser or classic instead of a Hog or a Triumph.
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Post  Jimcoleman Sat 11 Feb 2012, 9:45 pm

Cameron wrote:My father has always had awesome jap bikes. 2 years ago he went out and baught a brand new Harley (he still has a Honda as well though).

Being 19 then, i thought what the hell...now im 21 and all grown up...i can say i will have one, one day Very Happy

Cameron i truly expected better from you
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Post  Jimcoleman Sat 11 Feb 2012, 9:45 pm

Cameron wrote:My father has always had awesome jap bikes. 2 years ago he went out and baught a brand new Harley (he still has a Honda as well though).

Being 19 then, i thought what the hell...now im 21 and all grown up...i can say i will have one, one day Very Happy

Cameron i truly expected better from you
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Post  NTBill Sat 11 Feb 2012, 10:17 pm

A mate of mine is currently touring around Tassie. He refers to "bike roads" and "Harley roads" sort of sums up the Harley to my mind. Lots of them up here in the NT. we have no corners. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Post  Reardo Sat 11 Feb 2012, 10:42 pm

I'm not a lover of Harleys, but not a hater either.
There is a Shit load of them out here. No corners. Rolling Eyes
For those who haven't ridden One, There not slow(Not fast either). But how many people Ride there machines at ten tenths. Tho it's not hard to out brake them. "shit brakes is not, is not a under statement". I manly ride behind them, so I don't end up with a 300+Kg haemorrhoid. Embarassed
Harley's do have a place in this world, Just not in my shed. Laughing
They are way way over price.
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Post  paul Sat 11 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

Jimcoleman wrote:
Cameron wrote:My father has always had awesome jap bikes. 2 years ago he went out and baught a brand new Harley (he still has a Honda as well though).

Being 19 then, i thought what the hell...now im 21 and all grown up...i can say i will have one, one day Very Happy

Cameron i truly expected better from you


Does that mean your twice as disappointed in him then lol!
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Post  Grover Sun 12 Feb 2012, 9:31 am

I wouldn't mind a cruiser to take the Missus out on for weekend rides, but not as my only bike. I would miss cornering far too much.

I don't care what people ride, as long as they ride.
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Post  gus Sun 12 Feb 2012, 9:41 am

Thats true .If it has a motor ,you get wet ,cold and at times "do it tough " its all the same .
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Post  Ironman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 6:41 pm

If I went to the US for a "riding holiday" - I'd rent one but wouldn't own one.
My Dad had one in the early 90's. Yes - I thought it was the coolest thing but what detracted from the expereince was having to chain it to the concrete floor and turn the garage into a fortress - all to try to lessen the chance of it being flogged.
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Post  madmax Sun 12 Feb 2012, 8:50 pm

gus wrote:Thats true .If it has a motor ,you get wet ,cold and at times "do it tough " its all the same .

Unless it's a scooter Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Post  Jimcoleman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 9:17 pm

this i dont care what you ride as long as you ride things a bit of a crock i envited two mates with harleys on our march jenolan caves ride and they declined based on jap bikes were going i said are you for real " yup sorry" then mumbled some bullshit about the roads.

i suspect that a 500 kilometer a day for three days ride on a harley is not a pleasant experience


goota get rid of this soap box on harleys

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Post  2wheelsagain Sun 12 Feb 2012, 9:40 pm

Jimcoleman wrote:this i dont care what you ride as long as you ride things a bit of a crock i envited two mates with harleys on our march jenolan caves ride and they declined based on jap bikes were going i said are you for real " yup sorry" then mumbled some bullshit about the roads.

i suspect that a 500 kilometer a day for three days ride on a harley is not a pleasant experience


goota get rid of this soap box on harleys

That says more about the riders and the "image" they paid for than the bikes themselves unless they were on WLA's or similar.
In the US they are a regular bike and 300 - 500 mile days are common.

That HD image from both sides of the fence seems to be particular to Australia.
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Post  Grover Mon 13 Feb 2012, 9:36 pm

Your Harley riding mates might care what other people ride, but I don't. I agree with 4wa, it says more about the riders than the bikes.

They would get left behind on the corners and the straights against 1250 Bandits. But they would look cool parked outside the pub Laughing
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