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Post  moto1 Thu 18 Nov 2010, 12:04 pm

Hey guys anyone ever used anything other than the OEM oil filter on there Bandit ?? I've been searching and found some alternatives like these

Ryco - Z444
K&N - 138
Filtrex - OIF015
HiFlo - HF138

any recommendations or should I just stick with the original Suzuki item (which are quite pricey at $25).
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Post  2wheelsagain Thu 18 Nov 2010, 1:23 pm

I picked up a chrome K & N back in the early days. Not sure of the part number.
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Post  holdenman Thu 18 Nov 2010, 3:39 pm

I use the hiflo filter

bout $20 last time i bought one

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Post  step_andy Sun 30 Jan 2011, 5:16 pm

SydneyBandit wrote:Hey guys anyone ever used anything other than the OEM oil filter on there Bandit ?? I've been searching and found some alternatives like these

Ryco - Z444
K&N - 138
Filtrex - OIF015
HiFlo - HF138

any recommendations or should I just stick with the original Suzuki item (which are quite pricey at $25).

K&N 138 - black casing, 138C - chrome casing.
138C
15 quid or $24 posted to Aus.

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Post  moto1 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 6:16 pm

I was at my local Suzuki dealer today to purchase a replacement oil filter when the parts guys told me that Suzuki have changed the internal design of the OEM oil filter for models made after 2010 & onwards the part number is now " 16510-07J00 " but for the older models eg 2007-2009 the part # is still "16510-03G00-X07" (not sure if it has been superseded by 16510-07J00 though as mine is a 2010 model so I forgot to ask)
he went on to say the change was due to flow rates as the 16510-03G00-X07 is a higher flow rate, I would have thought the higher flow rate in any case would be better as to not starve the engine of oil anyone have any thoughts on this ?
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Post  scopebud Sat 10 Sep 2011, 7:07 pm

seems wierd ,dunno bud
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Post  holdenman Sat 10 Sep 2011, 7:49 pm

I wouldnt take to much notice of what a dealer has to say
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Post  gus Sat 10 Sep 2011, 7:51 pm

Phew ,i thought it was another oil thread , Mad .Filters thats o.k. prefer Suzuki item and change it 10 ,000 kls .
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Post  sb1250 Sat 10 Sep 2011, 9:13 pm

Anyone buying filters in bulk? Thru a dealer or online? Interested in a bulk buy but shipping from the uk tends to "rip you a new one" Shocked !!
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Post  holdenman Sat 10 Sep 2011, 9:31 pm

Usually buy 3 or 4 at a time

This is the ebayer i get my filters off. did a lot of research and found him to be the cheapest. usually arrive in 7 days so cant complain.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380321013986?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#shId

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Post  paul Sat 10 Sep 2011, 9:42 pm

change mine every service with genuine Suzuki / cheap insurance & the price difference is negligible over the amount of time and km you get from one in the long run
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Post  dhula Sun 11 Sep 2011, 12:57 am

Price difference between OEM and others is usually not that much and if you get them from OS the cost of shipping adds up to be close as well in most cases I've looked into.

A lot of suzuki bikes use the same filter so most dealers should have a good stock of these filters in thier shop making it a walk in walk out affair in the most part.

have used the hiflo filter in the past but when wheeling and dealing the next time I got it for the same price, so I figured why not use OEM.


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Post  Boatz Sun 11 Sep 2011, 6:43 pm

Looked into buying K&N 138 from overseas, over $20 mark delivered. Searched locally and found a shop in my area sells for $23. So i bought one. Like the nut on the end to assist with removal. I change my filter EVERY oil change. (3000ks). I know many will say thats too few Ks but thats just what i do. I like clean oil. Smile
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Post  Dekenai Mon 12 Sep 2011, 5:35 am

I bought 3 OEM Suzuki filters with my last Jake Wilson tyre order so no additional shipping cost and US$10 ea. for the filters.
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Post  Kaupy1962 Mon 12 Sep 2011, 8:39 am

I buy all my K&N stuff from www.slipstreamperformance.com.au
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Post  Hammy Mon 12 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

I stumbled upon a Vesrah SF-3009 in Supercheap for just $19.95. Grabbed one for future use, and the helpfull young lad there tracked down 2 sets of Vesrah sintered brake pads that are on the way. Also at a good price. They also carry the Fuche Silkolene fully syn oil. 4lts for about $60.
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Post  sb1250 Wed 29 Feb 2012, 8:11 am

Last time I headed into my Suzuki dealer and asked for an oil filter for the Bandits 6k service - it had to be ordered in! My response was......dont bother, just give me an oil filter for a GSXR1000k4 (its listed as the same part number as a Bandit filter on other parts sites ie. 16510-03G00-X07). The dealer assured me that they were completely different filters, and reluctantly sold me the GSXR filter. Well, time for the 12k service - and another GSXR oil filter!!
Oh, the oil pan plug and gasket (sump plug and o-ring) are the same part numbers for the GSXR also.

I should have purchased some filters from Mr Wilson last time I got my Dunlops...... Embarassed Embarassed
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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 29 Feb 2012, 9:19 am

sb1250 wrote: GSXR1000k4 (its listed as the same part number as a Bandit filter on other parts sites ie. 16510-03G00-X07). The dealer assured me that they were completely different filters, and reluctantly sold me the GSXR filter. Well, time for the 12k service - and another GSXR oil filter!!
Oh, the oil pan plug and gasket (sump plug and o-ring) are the same part numbers for the GSXR also.

Very handy to know. Thanks cheers study
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Post  Rabid_Canine Thu 26 Apr 2012, 9:20 am

Just having a break from my Suzuki dealer NE of Adelaide who quoted me over $500 for 12,000k service on my Bandit.
No shims need doing or anything like that.
So went to Kawasaki dealer at Gepps Cross and got 4L of Motul 5100 and a HiFlo 138 filter for $80.
Will get K&N air filter soon but inspected current one and looks fine.

Whacked the new filter on and plonked in the Motul and lo and behold, stickiness on low-rev downshifts is gone. Just like that.

I knew the oil change was due as the level had started to drop in the sightglass, and having had a few big Suzi fours, including the GS1000S I wish I had never sold (and still occasionally dream that I still ride), I know that when they start to chew a little oil it's time to change it.
It was as black as a dog's guts, so I think with it doing mainly commuter mileage, with the weekend club rides and solo fangs through the Adelaide Hills, maybe I will drop the cycle to every 4000kms.

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Post  holdenman Thu 26 Apr 2012, 9:31 am

Rabid_Canine wrote:Just having a break from my Suzuki dealer NE of Adelaide who quoted me over $500 for 12,000k service on my Bandit.
No shims need doing or anything like that.
So went to Kawasaki dealer at Gepps Cross and got 4L of Motul 5100 and a HiFlo 138 filter for $80.
Will get K&N air filter soon but inspected current one and looks fine.

Whacked the new filter on and plonked in the Motul and lo and behold, stickiness on low-rev downshifts is gone. Just like that.

I knew the oil change was due as the level had started to drop in the sightglass, and having had a few big Suzi fours, including the GS1000S I wish I had never sold (and still occasionally dream that I still ride), I know that when they start to chew a little oil it's time to change it.
It was as black as a dog's guts, so I think with it doing mainly commuter mileage, with the weekend club rides and solo fangs through the Adelaide Hills, maybe I will drop the cycle to every 4000kms.

Dealers are absolute Rip off. I have bought brand new bikes in the past and i have always serviced them since day 1.

This is what i do and i dont recommend this to anyone
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Post  Ironman Thu 26 Apr 2012, 5:48 pm

Has anyone EVER found a Ryco Z444 on the shelf anywhere?

I'm using the KN-138. They can be had for under $20 each - just got to find them.
Slipstream Performance at Burleigh Heads QLD have them on hand and Mick's Car and Bike Tyres at Brendale QLD also sell them. These are the only two places I know.
Something I find strange, most Suzuki Dealers carry K&N air filters but look at you funny when you ask for a K&N oil filter. scratch


If places like Autobarn (who seem to carry some rather nice kit for performance minded car enthusiasts) started to carry bike service parts, they would open themselves to a whole new market.
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Post  BanditDave Thu 26 Apr 2012, 7:26 pm

Jake Wilson www.jakewilson.com

http://www.jakewilson.com/p/53/90/388/735/8797/25927/Suzuki-OEM-Oil-Filter -$14US

http://www.jakewilson.com/p/53/90/388/735/8797/9282/K-%2526-N-Oil-Filter - $10US

Email them for a quantity 10 price

Freight is not overly expensive

Delivery - my last order for tyres - 6 days (takes longer from Brisbane!)
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Post  moto1 Mon 07 May 2012, 10:41 am

Supercheap auto have 15% off Vesrah oil filters at the moment the Bandit part number is SF-3009 if anyone is interested
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Vesrah-Motorcycle-Oil-Filter-6102055-SF-3009.aspx?pid=125641#Description
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Post  1952 Wed 16 May 2012, 9:58 pm

Boatz wrote:Looked into buying K&N 138 from overseas, over $20 mark delivered. Searched locally and found a shop in my area sells for $23. So i bought one. Like the nut on the end to assist with removal. I change my filter EVERY oil change. (3000ks). I know many will say thats too few Ks but thats just what i do. I like clean oil. Smile

That's too few Kilometres! Smile

Seriously, we are not talking about oils from 30 years ago .. today's oils (certainly semi-sythetic or synthetic) are really and truly capable of managing the conservative service schedule suggested by Suzuki. The oil is MEANT to get dirty - that's what it wants to do, pick up any nasty stuff and hold it in suspension until it is changed at the manual suggested time. Halving the schedule suggested distance for the oil change 'might' make sense if you only ride on dirt roads or in sandstorms, or spend your time at the drag-strip - 'perhaps', but really, the suggested filter change is 18,000 km. Isn't what you are doing equivalent to buying a large case of oil and a half-dozen pack of filters and then tipping out half the oil and throwing away 5 filters? Suspect

Not the best use of your money and not the best outcome for the environment I politely suggest.

P.S. If this offends .. then feel absolutely free to completely ignore .. after all, it is only an observation/opinion jocolor
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Post  holdenman Wed 16 May 2012, 10:12 pm

In my mind there is no point changing the oil unless you change the filter at the same time
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