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Ok people has anyone opened up the stock muffler on these things 06 gsf1200s is it possible to do a bafflectomy
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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I swapped mine out for a Delkavic slip on. I've also kept the standard cannon just in case it's required at any time for the pink slip
Kiwisteve- Posts : 1420
Join date : 2012-01-25
Age : 61
Location : Coffs Coast
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meggens85 wrote:Ok people has anyone opened up the stock muffler on these things 06 gsf1200s is it possible to do a bafflectomy
I'm sure it is possible, but is it worth it? If it's anything like the 1250 can it will be large, heavy and welded.
Just replace it with a aftermarket one
madmax- Posts : 4307
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 61
Location : Carrum Downs, Victoria
Re: stock muffler
Yes.
I'll get back to you tonight on what I've done
I'll get back to you tonight on what I've done
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
Re: stock muffler
Awesome mtbeerwah thanks
Will be goin with aftermarket when i can afford it just want more noise in the meantime
Will be goin with aftermarket when i can afford it just want more noise in the meantime
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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Ok, This all depends on what you want to achieve here..
First of all, there`s so many Can`s on the after market shelf, its not funny.
Some cheap and nasty.... some dear and nasty.....some cheap and good....some dear and good.
Do you want noise?
Do you want torque and noise?
Do you want HP and noise?
OR...do you want quiet and torque, which is what I`ve achieved, and happy with it, and WONT be putting a noise maker on any time soon.
How savvy are you with tools?
I don`t know your back ground field of work. Do you have a welder, or any kind of work shop, and tools at your deposal?
There`s two ways to go about it. You will have to cut the end off it and pull it apart regardless.
You can either make it straight through, with a perforated pipe, and pack gauzing around it. The end result is it will be the same as an after market, but heavy, if this concerns you.
Or go the complicated way, which is what I did.
I pulled mine apart, and replaced the internal piping with the common size, of the I.D of the header end, which joins the Can.
As you may or may not know, a factory can passes through two chambers, to supress noise, and in doing so, reduces three times in I.D, before it hits the outside world. This restricts flow considerably.
So the end result for me, was also a Dyno test, with a stubbie Yosh can, that came with the bike, then putting my modified can on to give me a comparison. This is all on my 1200 GEN1.
I rebuilt the carbs, played with them until I couldn`t get it any better, with the stub on it. All with standard jetting, only playing with the needles, and mixture screw. Also K&N Filter
It dynode at 116HP with a better than standard torque curve.
I put modified on. It produced 114HP, with a lot more torque and usable power, than the after market noise maker.
Yeah it weights more, but do I give a shit...nah, cause its now a pleasure to ride, it delivers the power better...AND...Its QUIET, which for me, is what I now want in a bike now.
Over time, I`m really beginning to HATE, noisy bikes. I`ve proved that there isn`t much difference between the two.
But the big question IS...how much mucking around do YOU, want to do????????? There`s a lot, and it may be easier for you just to put an after market noisy thing on and be done with it!!!
Think hard about it.
For me it was a no brainer, as I have access to everything I needed, and its all part my trade, metal stuff, not rocket science. Plus I like to tinker, and to try to reinvent the wheel to prove others wrong, that say it can`t be done, or there`s no benefit.
Stay tuned for my airbox mods!!!!
First of all, there`s so many Can`s on the after market shelf, its not funny.
Some cheap and nasty.... some dear and nasty.....some cheap and good....some dear and good.
Do you want noise?
Do you want torque and noise?
Do you want HP and noise?
OR...do you want quiet and torque, which is what I`ve achieved, and happy with it, and WONT be putting a noise maker on any time soon.
How savvy are you with tools?
I don`t know your back ground field of work. Do you have a welder, or any kind of work shop, and tools at your deposal?
There`s two ways to go about it. You will have to cut the end off it and pull it apart regardless.
You can either make it straight through, with a perforated pipe, and pack gauzing around it. The end result is it will be the same as an after market, but heavy, if this concerns you.
Or go the complicated way, which is what I did.
I pulled mine apart, and replaced the internal piping with the common size, of the I.D of the header end, which joins the Can.
As you may or may not know, a factory can passes through two chambers, to supress noise, and in doing so, reduces three times in I.D, before it hits the outside world. This restricts flow considerably.
So the end result for me, was also a Dyno test, with a stubbie Yosh can, that came with the bike, then putting my modified can on to give me a comparison. This is all on my 1200 GEN1.
I rebuilt the carbs, played with them until I couldn`t get it any better, with the stub on it. All with standard jetting, only playing with the needles, and mixture screw. Also K&N Filter
It dynode at 116HP with a better than standard torque curve.
I put modified on. It produced 114HP, with a lot more torque and usable power, than the after market noise maker.
Yeah it weights more, but do I give a shit...nah, cause its now a pleasure to ride, it delivers the power better...AND...Its QUIET, which for me, is what I now want in a bike now.
Over time, I`m really beginning to HATE, noisy bikes. I`ve proved that there isn`t much difference between the two.
But the big question IS...how much mucking around do YOU, want to do????????? There`s a lot, and it may be easier for you just to put an after market noisy thing on and be done with it!!!
Think hard about it.
For me it was a no brainer, as I have access to everything I needed, and its all part my trade, metal stuff, not rocket science. Plus I like to tinker, and to try to reinvent the wheel to prove others wrong, that say it can`t be done, or there`s no benefit.
Stay tuned for my airbox mods!!!!
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
Re: stock muffler
Im pretty handy with my tools and love to tinker also
Basically all i w an t is to be able to hear the thing came of a vtwit cruizer with straight though pipes (loud) and the gsf just purrs all i can hear is the motor ticking away and i wouldnt mind hearing a bit of an exhaust note
To me the can looks like its got a smaller perferated pipe inside a larger perferated pipe in the second chamber of the can would removing that give me a bit of noise without opening the whole thing up and going whole hog on the internals
Basically all i w an t is to be able to hear the thing came of a vtwit cruizer with straight though pipes (loud) and the gsf just purrs all i can hear is the motor ticking away and i wouldnt mind hearing a bit of an exhaust note
To me the can looks like its got a smaller perferated pipe inside a larger perferated pipe in the second chamber of the can would removing that give me a bit of noise without opening the whole thing up and going whole hog on the internals
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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If your going to the trouble to open it up, you may as well put an oversized perforated straight through in it, and be done with it.
Will be a quicker mod to do. And yes...the neighbours will here you 20 blocks away like you want.
Study the can wisely for your first cut, then just start cutting and pulling apart. its all self explanatory.
But I`m sure you can get a second hand pipe for bugger all on some site??
Unbolt, then bolt on. Done.
Will be a quicker mod to do. And yes...the neighbours will here you 20 blocks away like you want.
Study the can wisely for your first cut, then just start cutting and pulling apart. its all self explanatory.
But I`m sure you can get a second hand pipe for bugger all on some site??
Unbolt, then bolt on. Done.
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
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Yeah might do a bit of lookin around first before i pull it apart
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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Don't do it. Just buy an arrow or Yoshi. They are louder but not obnoxious like the two brothers can.
reddog- Posts : 2523
Join date : 2010-09-27
Age : 46
Location : Allanson WA
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Would love to buy an arrow or yoshi reddog but funds are limited at the moment after buying it rwc and transfers not much left at the moment for the fun stuff lol
meggens85- Posts : 113
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If the bike isn`t your main source of transportation, and you have total access to everything, and only have to buy, if at all very minimal parts, very cheaply, plus you like to tinker, then do it.
Like I said before, if someone tells me not to do something, I usually do it to prove them wrong.
I`m certainly not trying to persuade you from doing it.
But if its going to cost you more than $60 all up, I wouldn`t do it, as you will probably pick up something cheap, if you keep your eyes and ears open.
When I did it, I already had a spare can, and it cost me absolutely nothing in parts, as I had it, and I have access to a work shop.
I`m just looking at it purely from a cost point of view, and that's it!!
I think its good that your thinking outside the square!
Like I said before, if someone tells me not to do something, I usually do it to prove them wrong.
I`m certainly not trying to persuade you from doing it.
But if its going to cost you more than $60 all up, I wouldn`t do it, as you will probably pick up something cheap, if you keep your eyes and ears open.
When I did it, I already had a spare can, and it cost me absolutely nothing in parts, as I had it, and I have access to a work shop.
I`m just looking at it purely from a cost point of view, and that's it!!
I think its good that your thinking outside the square!
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
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Yeah all good mtbeerwah the bike is my main source of transport and im the same love to prove people wrong lol
Gonna keep the eyes and ears open for now anyway and see what i can find but worst case might have to give it a go just dont want to stuff it up and end up having to spend a fortune out of necessity
Gonna keep the eyes and ears open for now anyway and see what i can find but worst case might have to give it a go just dont want to stuff it up and end up having to spend a fortune out of necessity
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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If your a competent fabricator, with a fair bit of experience, its pretty hard to screw up.
If you don`t have a lot of fabrication experience, and don`t feel confident, then don`t do it.
I don`t want to see you screw it up from any influence from me.
Your system is the stainless outer, correct? So you will need a TIG welder, have you got one?
The balls in you court
If you don`t have a lot of fabrication experience, and don`t feel confident, then don`t do it.
I don`t want to see you screw it up from any influence from me.
Your system is the stainless outer, correct? So you will need a TIG welder, have you got one?
The balls in you court
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
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Yeah ouside is stainless and i dont have a tig
meggens85- Posts : 113
Join date : 2016-03-08
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Well, if you don`t have full access to material, welders and power tools...don`t do it.
mtbeerwah- Posts : 1787
Join date : 2010-02-20
Location : Brisbane
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Yeah thinkin the same thing will just have to keep looking maybe do some savin up lol
Cheers for the advice i appreciate it
Cheers for the advice i appreciate it
meggens85- Posts : 113
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