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Post  rd400f Sat 13 Feb 2016, 6:45 am

Hi
So what are the service intervals for a brand new bike?
Obviously there is the 1000km first service but when...in kms....are the next 2 meant to happen?
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Post  Chook Sat 13 Feb 2016, 6:51 am

1st service @ 1000km, , next @ 6000, then every 6000 after that
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Post  2wheelsagain Sat 13 Feb 2016, 1:12 pm

I would have thought Suzuki might have included this info in the service manual. 
Some manufacturers extend servicing to 10000/12000 or 15000km but I'd still be doing a mid oil and filter change. The Bandir clutch and gearbox would be a nightmare with 12000km old oil. It was bad enough at 6000km.
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Post  madmax Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

My service intervals are when I think about it, generally around the 6k mark but the last one was nearly 10k
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Post  Chook Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:16 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:I would have thought Suzuki might have included this info in the service manual. 
it was in mine
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Post  rd400f Sat 13 Feb 2016, 4:16 pm

Hi
Yes you are correct that it is in the owners manual.
But on one page is say 1000...6000...12000
Then on the next page it says "For Europe and Oceania countries"    1000...12000...24000

So it is not really clear.

I will stick with the 6000km interval.
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Post  WISA Sat 13 Feb 2016, 6:59 pm

If by   'Service Interval',   you mean......when to change oil and filters?......as opposed to the other service requirements included in the owner/service manuals..........you should change your oil/filter according to perceived minimum requirements derived from the 'service' literature, and balance that against your learned view of 'engine oil service life'.

The condition of the engine and the operating conditions the engine is subjected to, together with the performance quality/level of the oil, dictates the main criteria for oil and filter changes.

If I use a good quality (real) synthetic oil and operate mostly at cruise revs and temperature,.........I would confidently run to/beyong  6K oil interval and possibly longer for the filter.....and change at particular mileage intervals, regardless of most other considerations.

However, If I use less than a good synthetic,....I should change my oil more frequently. The frequency will depend primarily on the oil mileage, the grade of oil, and the time of year the mileage has accrued to. Non (real) synthetics (especially 5/10W-XX) are notorious for losing their viscosity performance in short time and won't generally go a OEM service interval without seriously losing their (out of the bottle) viscosity performance within the first 1500/2000K's. That is to say, e.g....a 10/40 non-(real) synthetic will generally shear down to a viscosity performance much closer to a 10/30 oil. 

So, for example.....if you operate your bike at 6k oil intervals using a inferior oil (low viscosity dino oil for the operating temps experienced), with the tail end of the oil service interval being in the height of a hot summer, and/or incur high engine temps and other operating demands such as high load/ revs / etc..........your engine life/performance/ will probably be reduced accordingly..

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Post  Chook Sat 13 Feb 2016, 7:20 pm

WISA wrote:

However, If I use less than a good synthetic,....I should change my oil more frequently. The frequency will depend primarily on the oil mileage
Time is just as important factor as  mileage, oil will over time become contaminated with moisture, If my bike was doing low km with good oil I'd stretch the recommended 6 months to perhaps a year, even with only 2 or 3K I still put fresh oil in after 12 months
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Post  Stromcat Mon 15 Feb 2016, 8:38 am

I change it every 5000 miles,and the filter every other oil change.I use fully sythetic 10/40,no short journeys and I rarely take it above 7000 rpm.Does anybody actually wear a bike engine out before they trade it for the next greatest thing? I used to have a Vstrom 1000 which had the same recommended oil change interval as the GSX1250FA,ie every 3,500 miles.I used to go the same 5000 routine as I do now.Interestingly (or not) Suzuki recommend 7500 mile oil change intervals for the latest Vstrom 1000,yet the engine is almost identical.I think the oil companys must love us bikers,shelling out for frequent and expensive oil transfusions.Each to their own.
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Post  Cardboard Tube Samurai Mon 15 Feb 2016, 10:14 am

I do oil and filter every 6000. I'd be more interested to hear opinions on service intervals for other things such as brakes, fork seals etc. I've just hit 25k on mine and I'm wondering if I should be getting anything checked out
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Post  Chook Mon 15 Feb 2016, 10:18 am

Cardboard Tube Samurai wrote:I do oil and filter every 6000. I'd be more interested to hear opinions on service intervals for other things such as brakes, fork seals etc. I've just hit 25k on mine and I'm wondering if I should be getting anything checked out

There is a full service schedule in the owners manual outlining what should be replaced/checked/inspected/lubricated at what intervals
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Post  Ewok1958 Mon 15 Feb 2016, 1:55 pm

Cardboard Tube Samurai wrote:I do oil and filter every 6000. I'd be more interested to hear opinions on service intervals for other things such as brakes, fork seals etc. I've just hit 25k on mine and I'm wondering if I should be getting anything checked out

I've always had some doubts about the Bandit servicing schedule, which fails to have an entry for the fuel filter or fork oil.  The following might or might not help, as I get the feeling you're wanting to know what sort of kms to expect from things like brake pads, head stem bearing, swing arm bearings, wheel bearings, fork seals, etc. The answer probably lies in how you ride the bike, but basically I'd be confident of 25,000kms from brake pads but I'd be expecting them every 12,000kms and more often as they wear down. Fork seal - I'd only bother with if they showed signs of leaking. The front fork oil probably should be replaced every 36,000kms.
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Post  madmax Mon 15 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

Cardboard Tube Samurai wrote:I do oil and filter every 6000. I'd be more interested to hear opinions on service intervals for other things such as brakes, fork seals etc. I've just hit 25k on mine and I'm wondering if I should be getting anything checked out

I checked my pads at 25k, barely half worn. Ended up changing them about a year later ready for the Parkes meet, and they still weren't finished.
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Post  Ulsterkiwi Tue 16 Feb 2016, 5:53 am

yep, had tyres put on with 36k kms ish on the clock, asked them to check the brake pads, all good apparently. My riding style means I go up and down the gear box more than some might with a bike like ours. (happy to pull away at very low revs) I rarely go hard on the picks. Always happy to change oil and filter at 6000kms.
The factory warranty runs out in a couple of months, I think I will start doing my own oil changes then and save the labour.

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Post  Cardboard Tube Samurai Tue 16 Feb 2016, 6:28 am

Ewok1958 wrote:
Cardboard Tube Samurai wrote:I do oil and filter every 6000. I'd be more interested to hear opinions on service intervals for other things such as brakes, fork seals etc. I've just hit 25k on mine and I'm wondering if I should be getting anything checked out

I've always had some doubts about the Bandit servicing schedule, which fails to have an entry for the fuel filter or fork oil.  The following might or might not help, as I get the feeling you're wanting to know what sort of kms to expect from things like brake pads, head stem bearing, swing arm bearings, wheel bearings, fork seals, etc. The answer probably lies in how you ride the bike, but basically I'd be confident of 25,000kms from brake pads but I'd be expecting them every 12,000kms and more often as they wear down. Fork seal - I'd only bother with if they showed signs of leaking. The front fork oil probably should be replaced every 36,000kms.
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Cheers! Secondhand means bike didn't come with manual so this is handy. Looks like I'm due for new plugs and air filter
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Post  Chook Tue 16 Feb 2016, 8:05 am

If I purchased a bike 2nd Hand and didn't know the service history, I'd give it the big one so I knew where it was at and then work the other services from there
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Post  Cardboard Tube Samurai Thu 18 Feb 2016, 8:29 pm

It came with service history
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Post  Chook Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:32 pm

Cardboard Tube Samurai wrote:It came with service history
So you know the schedule has been followed?
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