ISC valve piston question

For those that have taken out the ISC valve how easy was it to get out? Should it just slide out or should there be friction and tightness against the housing that it goes into.

I am having idling problem and mine is fairly snug and may be too tight and getting stuck which is causing the idling issues.

Mine was remove the valve and run carb cleaner through the two bores, which ran the cleaner over the piston which protrudes into the bores.
I didn't disassemble the valve and remove the piston.

I have no idea what an ISC valve is or what it does!    But, please do not feel the need to explain just for my sake. 

  Just thought I'd add a few of these for the heck of it!

I feel the need Dave. Nothing is too much trouble for you.
It's the Intelligent Steering Control system from a Spyder.

#Tag wrote:I feel the need Dave. Nothing is too much trouble for you.
It's the Intelligent Steering Control system from a Spyder.

So it's Ewok then.........

Piston broke again, Dave? 
Gotta stear clear of that red wine.  

A bit harsh Bosco, I was serious - I have no idea what this ISC device is doing as I ride along at a leisurely pace enjoying the scenery, admiring how much faster my mates all ride and what good friends they are (well, most of the time!).  

http://www.aa1car.com/library/idle_speed_control_valve.htm

If its not too much of an ask could you post some pix of the device and brief cleaning instructions?

2wheelsagain wrote:If its not too much of an ask could you post some pix of the device and brief cleaning instructions?

Unfortunately I didn't take any photos when doing it and because I am only new it wont let me add a link or photo from another site that shows everything. When my 7 day period is up I will post a pic

2wheelsagain wrote:If its not too much of an ask could you post some pix of the device and brief cleaning instructions?

Never had to clean mine , but Scott gave a brief description in his thread 
 here it is .item 7 in the first pic , & with the piston removed in the next pic / it is on the right hand side under the throttle bodies 

Pichas are always good. (Barry - you can to beat him to it, go on)

Brief description - its the alloy lump under the right hand side of the throttle bodies with a round electrical connector and 3 x 13mm vacuum hoses running from it. These hoses route air from the airbox back up into the throttle bodies to alter the idle air/fuel mixture, and the amount is controlled by a piston moving in and out of the bores of the valve. As you can guess it can gunk up and the ECU goes spazzo cos the kids aren't playing nice and it can't achieve a stable idle.

Scott's must have been gunked up good and proper needing piston removal.
I got away with just squirting the crapper out of it.

Edit, jeesus I really do tipe slow

Edited Edit  You put Barry to shame there Paul.

Edited edit of the edit  Is my head really that big?
Edit, etc   WTF?? the manual says when the O-rings go we won't sell you another one but we will sell you a whole new valve assembly.????
             Hmmm, same philosophy as the fuel pump.

#Tag wrote:Pichas are always good. (Barry - you can to beat him to it, go on)

Brief description - its the alloy lump under the right hand side of the throttle bodies with a round electrical connector and 3 x 13mm vacuum hoses running from it. These hoses route air from the airbox back up into the throttle bodies to alter the idle air/fuel mixture, and the amount is controlled by a piston moving in and out of the bores of the valve. As you can guess it can gunk up and the ECU goes spazzo cos the kids aren't playing nice and it can't achieve a stable idle.

Scott's must have been gunked up good and proper needing piston removal.
I got away with just squirting the crapper out of it.

Edit, jeesus I really do tipe slow

Edited Edit  You put Barry to shame there Paul.

Edited edit of the edit  Is my head really that big?

Na Na beat you 

Slow down, you tiping machine you - I'm still trying to add/editify/put more words into my last post (which was also outposted by three other people)

(Just making sure that 2WA feels appreciated)

#Tag wrote:Slow down, you tiping machine you - I'm still trying to add/editify/put more words into my last post (which was also outposted by three other people)

Not the first time I've been told I'm too quick   

AAaarghh - you did it again, I'm gunna buy a stenographer.

Then you would have to learn a new alphabet .............

I give up, I've brought a banana to a gun fight here.

#Tag wrote:I give up, I've brought a banana to a gun fight here.

  I wish my wife gave up that easy   

Thanks gents. Thought it might be handy to have a service "how to" . The fuel pump is pretty well known but this thing is a bit of a mystery.

I'll do some editing of the above when I get a chance.
Could someone take a pic of the offending item? 

What's that crap that gets in there? Carbon? General dirt? Is it filtered?

I am happy to do up a how to on the ISC symptoms I experienced and what to use on it and how to clean tools required etc having spent so much time on the thing, we are like best friends now.

Is an admin member able to give me access to post photos and weblinks as will not let me at the moment.

2wheelsagain wrote:Thanks gents. Thought it might be handy to have a service "how to" . The fuel pump is pretty well known but this thing is a bit of a mystery.

I'll do some editing of the above when I get a chance.
Could someone take a pic of the offending item? 

What's that crap that gets in there? Carbon? General dirt? Is it filtered?

Good idea ..........I will take a pic. tonight if no one has done it before then 

2wheelsagain wrote:What's that crap that gets in there? Carbon? General dirt? Is it filtered?

Crap.Not so much.Yes.Yes(fed from the filtered side of the airbox.)

The little plastic piston that slips over the actuator arm gets carbon on it but what stops it from working properly is the build up of "crap" that stops it entering fully and therefore having a wrong preset position. In my case this crap I believe was first a sticky substance ( fine pollen for example ) to which normal dirt then stuck.

For what it's worth, there was a recall on 2007 Bandits involving the ISC valve.  

See this:  https://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/952892/fromItemId/952843

This is a handy site to keep an eye on.