Yoshi cams installed
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Yoshi cams installed
Hi, finaly the yoshimura camshafts are installed
Today we did dyno adjustment on fuel. The results are great!
Some info. I had stage 2 with Holeshot headers. Now i added the yoshi cams plus raised the compresion ratio to 12. Also raised the limiter to 10100 rpm.
See below a dyno before and after instalation.
Today we did dyno adjustment on fuel. The results are great!
Some info. I had stage 2 with Holeshot headers. Now i added the yoshi cams plus raised the compresion ratio to 12. Also raised the limiter to 10100 rpm.
See below a dyno before and after instalation.
Last edited by Bandakias on Sat 20 Dec 2014, 3:08 am; edited 1 time in total
Bandakias- Posts : 40
Join date : 2014-04-07
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Nice results.
How about a bit of an introduction of yourself to the forum. Tell us about you and your bike.
How about a bit of an introduction of yourself to the forum. Tell us about you and your bike.
Bosco15- Posts : 1359
Join date : 2013-12-04
Age : 55
Location : Newcastle
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Not too shabby! Still got really good torque too!
How did you raise the compression?
How did you raise the compression?
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Might be a dumb question: is it a 1200 or a 1250?
Ewok1958- Posts : 3940
Join date : 2010-08-03
Age : 66
Location : Bega, NSW
Re: Yoshi cams installed
It's the 1250.
I raised the compression by shaving the head
Today i had my first street ride. Below 3000 rpm it lost a little torque, and after that it seems very alive. At 6000 it realy wake up and until the limiter it is very very strong.
I raised the compression by shaving the head
Today i had my first street ride. Below 3000 rpm it lost a little torque, and after that it seems very alive. At 6000 it realy wake up and until the limiter it is very very strong.
Bandakias- Posts : 40
Join date : 2014-04-07
Re: Yoshi cams installed
X2, there is a whole Topic just for thatBosco15 wrote:
How about a bit of an introduction of yourself to the forum.
Impressive results, although personally as I'm getting older and lazier I'm not sure I'd want to sacrifice any of the low rev torque
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Bandakias wrote:It's the 1250.
I raised the compression by shaving the head
Today i had my first street ride. Below 3000 rpm it lost a little torque, and after that it seems very alive. At 6000 it realy wake up and until the limiter it is very very strong.
Kudos to you for the work involved in getting these results, some impressive figures and with a bit of fine tuning and fuel map tweeks I dare say more to come
However, I'm with Chook (and he is probably right about it being an age thing), its the lazy low down grunt that keeps me attracted to the 1250, to be in any gear and having a small twist of the throttle to get you out of trouble. To tell the truth, the only time mine has spent any real time up in the high revs was on the dyno, its nice to know its there, but my sedate riding style means its the lower revs where I spend the marority of my time.
Still, we like hearing what can be done to our machines, so don't let a couple of old farts (sorry Chook ) deter you from where you want to take it.
Re: Yoshi cams installed
These figures show what can be done. They also probably show what Suzuki should/could have done in the first place.
Have you fitted a water temp gauge Bandakias? A bigger combustion bang would stretch the B1250 radiator I'd suspect.
Have you fitted a water temp gauge Bandakias? A bigger combustion bang would stretch the B1250 radiator I'd suspect.
Last edited by 2wheelsagain on Tue 16 Dec 2014, 1:18 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Did you 'dial-in' the cams? If you did, you slot the cam wheels (sprockets) or buy some variable sprockets?
Regards
Regards
Dekenai- Posts : 797
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Re: Yoshi cams installed
2wheelsagain wrote:These figures show what can be done. They also probably show what Suzuki should/could have done in the first place.
Have you fitted a water temp gauge Bandakias? A bigger combustion bang would stretch the B1250 radiator I'd suspect.
No i have not. There is no such indication
Bandakias- Posts : 40
Join date : 2014-04-07
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Dekenai wrote:Did you 'dial-in' the cams? If you did, you slot the cam wheels (sprockets) or buy some variable sprockets?
Regards
Yes, they are dial-in. The stock sprockets were sloted.
Bandakias- Posts : 40
Join date : 2014-04-07
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Pics
Intro
More info
Stop making us ask as we hate pulling teeth, just give us all the info
Pretty please with a cherry on top (or is that supposed to be ort grey)
Intro
More info
Stop making us ask as we hate pulling teeth, just give us all the info
Pretty please with a cherry on top (or is that supposed to be ort grey)
dhula- Posts : 1156
Join date : 2009-09-03
Location : Warnbro
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Great results, the gains certainly are impressive without being critical of your bike, i also enjoy the unmolested Bandits low down torque
MIKER- Posts : 53
Join date : 2014-10-22
Location : - Melbourne -
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Gee, I need to take the valve cover off mine... maybe while I'm there I can "accidentally" change the cams..."
That's a hefty change....
That's a hefty change....
stu- Posts : 264
Join date : 2013-06-17
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Hi, sorry for late reply but thinks are a bit grazy here in Greece.dhula wrote:Pics
Intro
More info
Stop making us ask as we hate pulling teeth, just give us all the info
Pretty please with a cherry on top (or is that supposed to be ort grey)
What picture do you want? Off me naked on the beach
On the first post i mention the basic info. I had stage 2 with headers. The modifications are pretty simple except probaply the ecu hacking.
The camshafts were installed and degreed by the mechanic (we did not used the yoshimura timing. For that we sloted the camshaft sprockets ) and the head cylider was shaved about 0,8mm to achive 12/1 compression rate. Finaly we installed the second butterflies in again and removed TFI , as we hacked the ecu of the bike for fuel map and rised the rev limiter.
For info purpose only, the mechanic told me that this machine has a lot more to give. The yoshi cams are very small and bigger can be used more compression and head porting.
I have video with a Gsx750r of a friend of mine which shows the power of bandit.
The strange think i found out after trying different sprocket compinations 17-45, 17-43, 18-43, is that the fastet compo is the 18-43 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqordnd6kU
Bandakias- Posts : 40
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Re: Yoshi cams installed
Some more hidden power!
Gsxr 1000 throttle bodies plus porting. True rev limiter 10500rpm. Is a little off on the dynograph.
Gsxr 1000 throttle bodies plus porting. True rev limiter 10500rpm. Is a little off on the dynograph.
Bandakias- Posts : 40
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Re: Yoshi cams installed
Very nice. I hope you've attached the suspension along the way or it'll be a fair handful
reddog- Posts : 2523
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Re: Yoshi cams installed
Crikey. That is serious power and torque.
Ewok1958- Posts : 3940
Join date : 2010-08-03
Age : 66
Location : Bega, NSW
Re: Yoshi cams installed
I believe I have a pair of gsxr cams for the 1200 in the shed . Maybe someone wants to try them . I will need them replaced with stock ones Or these sent back but no hurry .
gus- Posts : 6176
Join date : 2010-11-23
Age : 73
Location : Cygnet ,Tasmania
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Nice work!!!
I think it's time you make a new youtube video of this awesome machine.
A walk around and fly by would be cool.
Has the exhaust note change?
Did you use the Holeshots Re flash ECU?
What year model throttle bodies fit?
What's next???? BIG BORE KIT!!!
oh yeah, hi everyone!
I think it's time you make a new youtube video of this awesome machine.
A walk around and fly by would be cool.
Has the exhaust note change?
Did you use the Holeshots Re flash ECU?
What year model throttle bodies fit?
What's next???? BIG BORE KIT!!!
oh yeah, hi everyone!
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Photo with gsxr bodies. The only thing i want to improve is the throttle cables. Reverse them to fit from up of the bodies.
The intakes adapters are custom made from me with hayabusa boots. I did fit the throttles with stock boots but it did not work. Very few power gains on top. Just the adapters help quite a bit to optimize the flow.
The intakes adapters are custom made from me with hayabusa boots. I did fit the throttles with stock boots but it did not work. Very few power gains on top. Just the adapters help quite a bit to optimize the flow.
Bandakias- Posts : 40
Join date : 2014-04-07
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Next step should be a decent intake camshaft. The yoshimura one is quite small with 8,8mm lift and only 234 duration. Propably one with 9,5 lift and about 250 duration gets me near 170 rwp.
Bandakias- Posts : 40
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Re: Yoshi cams installed
Awesome work mate!
Did you keep the bandit injector or GSXR?
Keep up the good work @Bandakias
Did you keep the bandit injector or GSXR?
Keep up the good work @Bandakias
Re: Yoshi cams installed
Gsxr ones. From bandit did not fit. The bodies are from 2004 model. After that they have 8 injectors so was very hard to fit them.
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