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Post  sb1250 Sat 23 Mar 2013, 8:07 pm

I initially upgraded the original horn to a stebel magnum....slightly better, but not brown stain territory. Now Ive gone from the magnum to the Nautilis Compact. Yep, nearly shit myself on the first blast! This is going to be great - can't wait to test it!
I followed the directions of those on this forum, and the idiot proof wiring diagram supplied with the horn.
Ere's some pics......
Relay on the left side using the threaded holes in the frame
Now I got a big horn Dsc08310

Horn on the right side with a home made bracket
Now I got a big horn Dsc08311

and yes...the horn did hit the forks at full lock on the first trial fit  Embarassed
but a bit of fiddling.......fits like a glove!
Now I got a big horn Dsc08312

NotThe relay was supplied with the horn. I had a spare fuse holder left over from my other toy, and I ran the earth to the frame, and back to the battery.
cheers
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Post  gus Sat 23 Mar 2013, 8:33 pm

Some people just like making a noise don't they .Razz
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That would give a jelly fish a horn .
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Post  holdenman Sun 24 Mar 2013, 9:26 pm

i have used mine many of times and can attest they work well and will give cage drivers a big fright
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Post  barry_mcki Thu 22 Oct 2015, 9:30 pm

Working on a new project for the big-rig and run into a spot of trouble with a stripped thread.  

Does anyone have a 1/4" NPT die they can lend me - I'll cover the postage to and from Tassie.  If you also have the tap that would be good to run the threads on the receiving end as well.  

I thought this size was fairly common until I tried to buy one, between $60 and $90 just for the die.

Thanks,

Barry
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Post  mtbeerwah Thu 22 Oct 2015, 11:01 pm

barry_mcki wrote:Working on a new project for the big-rig and run into a spot of trouble with a stripped thread.  

Does anyone have a 1/4" NPT die they can lend me - I'll cover the postage to and from Tassie.  If you also have the tap that would be good to run the threads on the receiving end as well.  

I thought this size was fairly common until I tried to buy one, between $60 and $90 just for the die.

Thanks,

Barry

I can`t guarantee that I`ve got one Barry, but I do have a lot of assorted taps and dies.

I`m trying to read between the lines here, but have you got a "stud" that's stuffed?

Is it absolutely impossible to replace it with a metric or imperial nut/bolt?
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Post  barry_mcki Thu 22 Oct 2015, 11:13 pm

MT thanks for looking, it's not a stud but a tapered pipe fitting. Originally I thought it was BSP but now I'm sure it's NPT, definitely not metric.

I don't want to give too much away just yet, but let's just say that the post is in the right section.

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Post  mtbeerwah Thu 22 Oct 2015, 11:22 pm

Alright, you got me curious, and without you giving anything away yet,

Is any part of it, made of brass?
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Post  paul Thu 22 Oct 2015, 11:24 pm

Now I got a big horn Downlo10
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Post  barry_mcki Fri 23 Oct 2015, 12:16 am

mtbeerwah wrote:Alright, you got me curious, and without you giving anything away yet,

Is any part of it, made of brass?

Yep, a couple of brass bits Shocked

Started out as a bit of a laugh, but I'm getting into a field I haven't really dabbled in before so thought I'd give it a half decent go.
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Post  mtbeerwah Fri 23 Oct 2015, 12:55 am

Ok....so...your running a compressor, with high pressure lines...

mmmmmm...


Alright, don`t worry about doing a horn, just go straight to air bag suspension mate, now I want to see you do that Razz
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Post  mtbeerwah Fri 23 Oct 2015, 7:06 pm

barry_mcki wrote:MT thanks for looking, it's not a stud but a tapered pipe fitting.  Originally I thought it was BSP but now I'm sure it's NPT, definitely not metric.

I don't want to give too much away just yet, but let's just say that the post is in the right section.


Sorry Barry, I don`t have the tap and die you need.

Have you got any engineering shops near you, that you could call on to clean up your material?

They may even lend it to you, if you approach them the right way?
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Post  barry_mcki Fri 23 Oct 2015, 10:52 pm

Yep, that's pretty much it, 100psi compressor, 4 lt storage tank and quad 150db horns - made the mistake of testing these in the garage  affraid and these are the cheaper models.

One of the solenoids has a stuffed thread, but the manifold is in pretty good shape, so if I can't re-tap it I'll run a new solenoid further up stream and just put an air-line fitting in the manifold.  

As far as air-bag suspension it might not be as difficult to do, at least on the sidecar itself......

Now I got a big horn Own_se10
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Post  barry_mcki Wed 06 Jan 2016, 10:48 pm

Well finally got everything plumbed and wired, I think the missus has me off to see the OCD specialist next week.  The wiring sort of got a little more complicated than originally planned  Embarassed

Now I got a big horn Own_se11

As for the pneumatics, starts with a pressure switch controlled 150 PSI/160 LPM compressor feeding a 6litre tank then two remote solenoids down to a bank of three and a single horn via separate air lines. I've wired the system to turn on or off the compressor and to activate the airhorns with the bike horn or by themselves.

Now I got a big horn Img_7814
Some additional extras like a safety regulator, pressure gauge, and an additional Nitto connection to allow a hose for tyres or other things.

Now I got a big horn Img_7815
The new red power cables go to the VSR mounted in the back.  There are a couple of high current fuses packed in there as well.

Now I got a big horn Img_7816
Couldn't add something without a new addition to the handlebars - these switches under the GPS mount control the compressor and air horns.

Now I got a big horn Img_7817
The horns themselves, they make the Stebel sound like a toy whistle, they are suppose to be 150db but I think they could be louder, unfortunately my sound meter doesn't go up the high.

The compressor draws 45 amps hence the dual battery saga, so I decided to do a couple of extra things seeing I had the crimper out.  It now sports an additional 35AH battery connected to the bike battery via a dual sensing VSR that allows connection after the main battery is charged.  This VSR (from Jaycar) allows connectivity when either battery has reached 13.3volts (disconnects when it senses the voltage has dropped to 12.8v or lower).  Of course this wasn't complicated enough so I wired in a bypass to allow running dual batteries with a flick of a switch,  Also wired in dual CTEK charging points, dual 120 amp fuses and a couple of other bits and bobs.  If you've seen my rig you might remember there are Suzuki "S's"  on the front and rear of the sidecar, these are actually illuminated with leds, white at the front, red rear.  Re-wired them to double their illumination when the brakes are applied - I'll put that up in another thread if I get round to finishing the schematics.  

Anyway, it all works now, the problem is the sidecar boot is half full with all this crap, though it was fun testing it at the servo this afternoon when the doozy commodore driver was just sitting in her car hogging the bowser  Twisted Evil

Footnote:  When I had it all wired I rode the bike next door to the vacant block to do some "open air" testing, but then the bike wouldn't start again   After a day of head scratching and testing, it was after reading a thread on this site that led me to the problem - I will continue what wrong in another post as it was an interesting story in itself.  TOS Saga


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Post  paul Wed 06 Jan 2016, 10:56 pm

Thank you for showing us your VERY big horn . If you blast it at a copper , I'm sure he will be able to tell you how many Db it puts out  Laughing ...........................Very clever & well done mate Very Happy .
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Post  barry_mcki Thu 07 Jan 2016, 12:00 am

I'm sure Chook could tell us for certain, but my checking of the ADR is that there is actually no limit on how loud a horn can be. Some states (Vic and Qld I think) might have local regs. There are sanctions against musical horns but I couldn't find any thing in the ADR that limited the volume of a constant tone type horn.
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Post  talon440 Thu 07 Jan 2016, 4:08 pm

barry_mcki wrote:Well finally got everything plumbed and wired, I think the missus has me off to see the OCD specialist next week.  The wiring sort of got a little more complicated than originally planned  Embarassed

Now I got a big horn Own_se11

As for the pneumatics, starts with a pressure switch controlled 150 PSI/160 LPM compressor feeding a 6litre tank then two remote solenoids down to a bank of three and a single horn via separate air lines. I've wired the system to turn on or off the compressor and to activate the airhorns with the bike horn or by themselves.

Now I got a big horn Img_7814
Some additional extras like a safety regulator, pressure gauge, and an additional Nitto connection to allow a hose for tyres or other things.

Now I got a big horn Img_7815
The new red power cables go to the VSR mounted in the back.  There are a couple of high current fuses packed in there as well.

Now I got a big horn Img_7816
Couldn't add something without a new addition to the handlebars - these switches under the GPS mount control the compressor and air horns.

Now I got a big horn Img_7817
The horns themselves, they make the Stebel sound like a toy whistle, they are suppose to be 150db but I think they could be louder, unfortunately my sound meter doesn't go up the high.

The compressor draws 45 amps hence the dual battery saga, so I decided to do a couple of extra things seeing I had the crimper out.  It now sports an additional 35AH battery connected to the bike battery via a dual sensing VSR that allows connection after the main battery is charged.  This VSR (from Jaycar) allows connectivity when either battery has reached 13.3volts (disconnects when it senses the voltage has dropped to 12.8v or lower).  Of course this wasn't complicated enough so I wired in a bypass to allow running dual batteries with a flick of a switch,  Also wired in dual CTEK charging points, dual 120 amp fuses and a couple of other bits and bobs.  If you've seen my rig you might remember there are Suzuki "S's"  on the front and rear of the sidecar, these are actually illuminated with leds, white at the front, red rear.  Re-wired them to double their illumination when the brakes are applied - I'll put that up in another thread if I get round to finishing the schematics.  

Anyway, it all works now, the problem is the sidecar boot is half full with all this crap, though it was fun testing it at the servo this afternoon when the doozy commodore driver was just sitting in her car hogging the bowser  Twisted Evil

Footnote:  When I had it all wired I rode the bike next door to the vacant block to do some "open air" testing, but then the bike wouldn't start again   After a day of head scratching and testing, it was after reading a thread on this site that led me to the problem - I will continue what wrong in another post as it was an interesting story in itself.  TOS Saga

Guess you wont be storing anything under the seat Barry, so when does the big V8 go in to move that rig around, and then you could add a tyre changer in the trailer and do a call out tyre fitting and repairs service, great job Barry i wouldnt know where to start looking at that
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Post  MattyC Fri 08 Jan 2016, 4:59 pm

sb1250 wrote:I initially upgraded the original horn to a stebel magnum....slightly better, but not brown stain territory. Now Ive gone from the magnum to the Nautilis Compact. Yep, nearly shit myself on the first blast! This is going to be great - can't wait to test it!
I followed the directions of those on this forum, and the idiot proof wiring diagram supplied with the horn.
Ere's some pics......
Relay on the left side using the threaded holes in the frame
Now I got a big horn Dsc08310

Horn on the right side with a home made bracket
Now I got a big horn Dsc08311

and yes...the horn did hit the forks at full lock on the first trial fit  Embarassed
but a bit of fiddling.......fits like a glove!
Now I got a big horn Dsc08312

NotThe relay was supplied with the horn. I had a spare fuse holder left over from my other toy, and I ran the earth to the frame, and back to the battery.
cheers

This horn is great value for what it sounds like. Think I paid around $50 shipped cheers
Had mine for 6 months. Just gotta fab some brackets, then paint the compressor unit black and pull the finger outa my arse one day and go fit it
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