Adelaide City Council footpath parking trial - Survey

ACC wrote:Guiding principles
The following guiding principles have been adopted to identify
locations that may be suitable for motorcycle and scooter parking on
footpaths:
 Low pedestrian volumes
 Not located along a pedestrian desire line
 Not impeding on pedestrian mobility
 Does not create conflicts with existing (or possible future)
landscaping/greening and outdoor dining
 Adequate space to accommodate 10 or more motorcycles or
scooters
 The demand is there for motorcycle and scooter parking
(office/commercial precincts)
 The space is in essence considered to have low potential for
other uses
 Does not significantly impact on the visual amenity of the area.

2wheelsagain wrote:10 or mor motorcycles is a frigging joke.

2wheelsagain wrote:

Why does SA or ACC try to re-invent the wheel?

2wheelsagain wrote:Victorian rules are very simple and its mandated in state legislation.
~ Vicroad website ~

Footpath parking
In Victoria, you can park your motorcycle on a footpath, unless there is a sign saying you can't. When parking you must not get in the way, or block the path of pedestrians, delivery vehicles, public transport users or parked cars.

On-street motorcycle parking bays are available in Melbourne's Central Business District(External link) and other urban areas throughout Victoria.

The responsibility for the enforcement of footpath parking lies with Councils. To find out more about your local parking laws, visit Local Councils(External link). Penalties will apply if you park in motorcycle excluded areas.
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There are very few excluded areas. They are well signed and usually dedicated parking is close by. Why does SA or ACC try to re-invent the wheel?

In the early 80's we were motivated enough to occupy every car space in the CBD over a couple of weekends. 1 bike per space as per the law at the time. That quickly showed the benefits of footpath parking.

Chook wrote:

2wheelsagain wrote:

Why does SA or ACC try to re-invent the wheel?

Nanny State mentality, way too many wowsers that oppose change / development just for the sake of it.
The same reasons we have to put up / pull down all of the Clipsal 500 infrastructure every year

Chalkie wrote:I nearly got pinged in the city because I had parked on a footpath between two brass discs embedded in the footpath. Didn't realise that meant I was blocking streetside cafe tables and chairs for when they opened later that morning. Only just escaped the grey ghosts and an angry cafe owner. 

Chalkie wrote:You're right 2WA, no signage except for these brass discs about the size of tennis balls in the footpath. I rarely go into the city and didn't have a clue about them. Top of Elizabeth Street, the other end being a bit of a bikie Mecca.

paul wrote:Yay ........some common sense prevailing at last ..................I have also noticed most drivers seem to be doing the right thing with regards to filtering ; despite the distinct  lack of media publicity letting them know the law has changed. 

FB post regarding joining MRA wrote:~ Why Join the MRASA and Support a New Committee ~
RTR was started by motorcyclists, for motorcyclists, just over 20 months ago with the sole goal of seeking better representation for motorcycling in SA government decision making.
Along with this, 3 major tasks where set for the group to achieve.
1. The Legalisation of ECE Helmets,
2. The Legalisation of Lane Filtering, and
3. Simplified control rules for motorcyclists.
Today, 20 months later, 2 of those 3 tasks are complete with the third being progressed along and hopefully, completed by mid 2017. However, for almost every task RTR has undertaken, the MRASA has chosen not to engage with RTR, help represent us or seek to consult within our (and by extension, their own) riding community.
This is in direct conflict of the aims of the their own organisation, which, as per the constitution are
(a) To provide a link between motorcyclists, government, other authorities and the general public.
(b) To support other motorcycling bodies that work for the betterment of motorcycling.
Most recently, the RTR Lane Filtering submission was slandered, by proxy, with no justification, yet the submission was in support of the very same objective the MRASA were seeking.
This is counter-productive to everything in the advocacy space and only goes to harm the improvement of motorcycling in SA.
We can, therefore, no longer allow the MRASA to remain in it's current black box form, devoid of communication, consultation, engagement and development within its own, or the wider motorcycling community if we are to seek the optimal level for representation for motorcycling in SA.
We therefore need to strengthen it, with new committee members, an increased membership and new ideas.
But we need your help to that.
We need you need to join the MRASA this month and then vote (or proxy vote) at the next AGM in February for new committee candidates… or optionally, for any existing MRASA members, support this initiative for a new committee and again, vote for new committee members.
~ What a new Committee will do ~
Should our candidates be successfully voted in, our immediate priorities will be to
- Instigate an internal member review (feedback survey) to ascertain member satisfaction, wants and needs of MRASA members.
- Instigate a Rider Awareness Week campaign in line with other jurisdictions.
- Develop a sub-committee to liaise with, and host, representatives from other motorcycling groups including online social groups, owner groups and other external advocacy groups.
- Instigate live streaming of general meetings to allow remote and regional members to participate in real time.
- Deploy a new content management system to host the MRASA website, making it mobile friendly, more easily accessible and with more content.
- Review membership pricing and options (similar to VMC, i.e. some membership packages may include roadside assistance, other levels may be cheaper)
- Rewrite the constitution to be more robust, specifying committee roles, separate roles and maximum tenure of roles.
- Remove 'committee approval' requirement for membership, making it immediate, but also include a dismissal and appeals process within the constitution.
- Investigate and apply for government and community grants to run rider awareness activities to the wider community.
- Review and optimise organisational income and expenditures.
- Seek member and community consultation on what core goals it would like to see the MRASA undertake next.
- Reopen the MRASA Facebook page to comments and discussion.
- Ensure the new MRASA committee works in alignment with the aims of the constitution.
~ What about the Existing MRASA functions ~
All existing MRASA programs and groups will remain in place and not be shuttered. They will continue to receive the full support of the new MRASA committee (and we would hope the existing leadership for these groups choose to remain on in place).
This includes the
- 4B's
- SAMRATS
- SAScoots
- Ridden on Run
- Blood Run
~ Final Thoughts ~
Beyond that, I also want to state that RTR members are fully aware of the significance of what we are attempting to undertake and achieve.
The MRASA has a long and rich history of achieving great outcomes for motorcyclists in this State and we do not attempt to cheapen or belittle their efforts. Their time, like ours, has been given freely and without reward, and, at the end of the day, we're all fighting for the same thing, better outcomes for motorcyclists.
Therefore, this upcoming vote, it's your chance to have your voice heard on how you think we can best achieve that... and it's a clear choice between the MRASA continuing to operate as it always has, or optionally, putting in a new team that will open up the MRASA to the same level of community consultation and inclusion that has driven the success of RTR.
Finally, in the lead up to the AGM in February I will be announcing our committee candidates with a short bio and the positions they are running for… and as always, any feedback, questions, comments or criticisms are all welcome.
Cheers
Tim