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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 3:45 pm

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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 26 Oct 2013, 3:51 pm

Not from thieves MM - I'd put the seat back on!! Razz 


Seriously though, my toolkit bag has worn a hole in itself, so that's one layer of insulation compromised.  You'd be wanting to make sure the cover on the +ve terminal was never going to fail.

You've clearly got other ideas for the space at the back.
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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 3:58 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:Not from thieves MM - I'd put the seat back on!! Razz 


Seriously though, my toolkit bag has worn a hole in itself, so that's one layer of insulation compromised.  You'd be wanting to make sure the cover on the +ve terminal was never going to fail.

You've clearly got other ideas for the space at the back.
With the Tomcat and the puncture repair kit in the back there is no room for the tool kit. I guess I could lay a sheet of inner-tube rubber over it.

Apart from the possible electrical short problem what about fumes off the battery? or causing the battery to overheat?

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Post  Dekenai Sat 26 Oct 2013, 3:59 pm

Given the consequences, if say a spanner was to short circuit the battery terminals, I'd have to rate the risk as unacceptable.

Just saw your 2nd post; battery (if standard) is a sealed AGM type, so no fumes.
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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:04 pm

If you don't have the ABS version, you could always fabricate a new battery box that lowers the battery and then make a neat storage box that sits on top of it.  There is quite a bit of spare space on non-ABS Bandits and I've read posts where people have done this.
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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:10 pm

Yes battery is standard.

This is a GSX so ABS is also standard

Do you think a layer of inner-tube rubber would make it safe??

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Post  Dekenai Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:31 pm

A better idea would be to expand the size of the tail storage, I can't remember who it was but there is a post about doing this.  I sure one of the guys will recall who it was.  The result was a very handy increase which I am sure will do the job.
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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:36 pm

Dekenai wrote:A better idea would be to expand the size of the tail storage, I can't remember who it was but there is a post about doing this.  I sure one of the guys will recall who it was.  The result was a very handy increase which I am sure will do the job.
Might look into that for the long term, right now i'm looking for a solution ready for the Cowra trip

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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:39 pm

For the short term, a layer of insulating rubber ought to do the trick.  Clarke Rubber sell some wide stuff.
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Post  Re-Cycled Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm

I'd be inclined to use a high density closed cell foam like this polyethylene, we get parts packed with it, it can come in thin sheets.
http://www.foambymail.com/PE17-_1/polyethylene-foam-sheets-1-7lb-white.html

or if you had an old closed cell sleeping mat that would be good, I bought something like that about a centimetre thick modify a car seat once.

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Post  Dekenai Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:44 pm

OK short term solution.  I'd go down to the motorcycle wreckers and look for the top of a battery box that fits and extends say an inch down the sides of the battery and fit under the rubber strap.  This will retain it make sure it doesn't go anywhere.
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Post  sb1250 Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:46 pm

Have you removed Gus' knobs Shocked ???
Gives you more room........

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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 4:56 pm

I not sure I want to fiddle with Gus's Knobs Shocked

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Post  sb1250 Sat 26 Oct 2013, 5:07 pm

Ha! 
There's dampening knobs bolted to the inside of the frame. I took mine out Shocked ! Left me with enough room for the tool kit and a puncture repair kit.

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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 5:13 pm

Ok but im trying to get Tomcat mini compressor, toolkit and puncture repair kit under the seat.
Before I bought the compressor I could get the toolkit and puncture repair kit in easily.

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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 5:35 pm

Ok I see what you mean. I guess they are there to stop vibrations into the rear handle.

Removing them would probably make all the difference.

Only thing is it looks like I have to completely remove the tail section to get to the 2 rear bolts. Not something I was planning on doing between now and Thursday, but you never know

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Post  Boatz Sat 26 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm

Madmax, I just removed my rear vibration knobs. took 5 mins. All you need is a 10mm ratchet ring spanner. No need to remove anything first.

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Post  Jimmy the Boy Sat 26 Oct 2013, 8:13 pm

madmax wrote:Ok but im trying to get Tomcat mini compressor, toolkit and puncture repair kit under the seat.
Before I bought the compressor I could get the toolkit and puncture repair kit in easily.
This might sound silly but put the Tomcat air compressor in your luggage, at least for the trip and worry about it later.Smile
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Post  Hammy Sat 26 Oct 2013, 10:05 pm

Wheres your can of chain lube go ?   Smile
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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 11:10 pm

Hammy wrote:Wheres your can of chain lube go ?   Smile
Well that'll be going in the tank bag

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Post  madmax Sat 26 Oct 2013, 11:13 pm

Jimmy the Boy wrote:
madmax wrote:Ok but im trying to get Tomcat mini compressor, toolkit and puncture repair kit under the seat.
Before I bought the compressor I could get the toolkit and puncture repair kit in easily.
This might sound silly but put the Tomcat air compressor in your luggage, at least for the trip and worry about it later.Smile
That is an option, but eventually I want this setup for everyday riding regardless of what luggage I'm carrying, if any.

Anyway I'll have a look at removing those dampeners tomorrow and see how that goes.

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Post  BanditDave Sun 27 Oct 2013, 7:52 am

I fitted two HID ballasts plus relays on the frame under the fairing.

I reckon there is heaps of room for other small items (probably not an esky though)!!

Just to be serious for a moment. Would the compressor fit underneath the battery?

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Post  Kiwisteve Sun 27 Oct 2013, 9:25 am

Doesn't sound like anything will fit under the battery with the ABS Dave

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Post  Dekenai Sun 27 Oct 2013, 12:22 pm

On ABS models the hydraulic unit lives under the battery near the upper shock mount, just in the area where the reservoir on a GSXR1000 shock would go.
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Post  madmax Sun 27 Oct 2013, 3:05 pm

Thank guys problem all sorted.
Removing the dampeners has given me enough room to get the compressor and repair kit in the back of the tail and the tool kit under the seat lock

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