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Post  gus Wed 30 Mar 2011, 12:55 pm

Can i replace the bolts that hold the front brake calapers to the forks with stainless steel ones ? Or is the shear capacity less with s\steel
than it is with what ever Suzuki has fitted.Its an 8mm diam m\thread.

I believe its a bit of a no-no.
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Post  gus Wed 30 Mar 2011, 1:57 pm

I would like to replace the bolts on the front end with stainless 'button heads '.Unfortuneately i believe its a 'no should do 'because stainless
is not as strong as steel .With that in mind i gave the heads a 30 sec. buff on a wheel ,not as good as button heads but better.
here is a comparison.(its raining )
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Post  Desert Bandito Wed 30 Mar 2011, 2:22 pm

gus wrote:I would like to replace the bolts on the front end with stainless 'button heads '.Unfortuneately i believe its a 'no should do 'because stainless
is not as strong as steel .With that in mind i gave the heads a 30 sec. buff on a wheel ,not as good as button heads but better.
here is a comparison.(its raining )
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I believe that the caliper mounting bolts are grade 8.8, which have a tensile strength of 800 mpa, or 116000 psi, and depending on the grade, your typical stainless steel bolt range in tensile strength between 482 and 551 mpa, or 70,000 to 80,0000 psi.

I personally don't think that even at the lower tensile strength of stainless steel, that on a bike like the Bandit that they would ever fail in a shear type of load, which is what they are subjected too. I know TastyNuts (ProBolt) sells replacement polished S/S nuts with the same type of head as the stock steel bolts.

http://www.tastynuts.com/Products/Stainless_Steel_Bolts_Flanged_Hex

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Post  gus Wed 30 Mar 2011, 3:51 pm

Thanks DB .I've replaced the 4 lower pinch bolts and the 4 lower triple clamp bolts with button head (S\S) seeing there is very little load on them.
The way brakes are set up these days there is no way i can see a problem with s\s on the calipers .But i'm not a metal eargy person ,what are they
called .?
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Post  Re-Cycled Wed 30 Mar 2011, 5:45 pm

gus wrote:Thanks DB .I've replaced the 4 lower pinch bolts and the 4 lower triple clamp bolts with button head (S\S) seeing there is very little load on them.
The way brakes are set up these days there is no way i can see a problem with s\s on the calipers .But i'm not a metal eargy person ,what are they
called .?

Hey Gus, whenever I've seen stainless bolts online they recommend an anti-sieze compound ( like never-seez) during assembly.

http://www.desmoparts.com/products/parts-catalog/suzuki/suzuki-gsxr600-stainless-steel-screw-kit

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Post  gus Wed 30 Mar 2011, 5:59 pm

I have heard they can "bind" ,i used them on my 1200 and never had a problem. However they were mainly for light items .

Today after replacing 8 bolts with S\S button heads i decided i liked the polished suzuki hex. head better so they all went back in. silent
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Post  whitey1 Fri 01 Apr 2011, 12:23 am

Man Gus, you must have too much time on your hands mate! Laughing
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Post  Desert Bandito Fri 01 Apr 2011, 12:45 am

whitey1 wrote:Man Gus, you must have too much time on your hands mate! Laughing

Just wait until he starts buffing his nuts. Shocked

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Post  whitey1 Fri 01 Apr 2011, 10:00 am

Desert Bandito wrote:
whitey1 wrote:Man Gus, you must have too much time on your hands mate! Laughing

Just wait until he starts buffing his nuts. Shocked
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA lol!
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Post  gus Fri 01 Apr 2011, 11:33 am

You mean everyone doesnt buff their nuts. affraid

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Post  gus Fri 01 Apr 2011, 11:43 am

Nothing but the best tools for me. Polishing wheel. Exhaust bracket was made with a hacksaw and file.
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Now go out and polish. Very Happy
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I know i'm getting picky but i also think the rear end looks better without those tiedown knobs sticking out . Replaced with a S\Steel button head.
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While i'm being picky,why are the hoses to and from the rad. cut so short !Would look much better butted up tight to the rad. Mad


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Post  reddog Fri 01 Apr 2011, 4:01 pm

You guys are getting more picky than the sportsbike riders with the bling.

My Bandit looks like it has had a hard time. I leave the racks on although they don't look fantastic, but I woudl much rather practicality over looks. If I wanted looks then I'd be riding something else for sure.

BTW... I take it you guys don;t get scuff marks on your rear set plates? My Sidi's have polished mine, so I can't be bothered painting them
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Post  gus Fri 01 Apr 2011, 5:34 pm

Its only me thats so picky. It goes with making surfboards, one blemish and the customer will not accept it, or want $100 off.

I will say Suzuki's metal threads and fastners have got so much better than they used to be (plastic). No more 5 spacers to fit the back wheel .
A centre stand, ABS ,a great motor,the price lots of other good things there. So why cut the hoses 20mm too short. Very Happy

You will see i havnt cut down the rear guard ,havnt got tiny blinkers ,have a fender extender ,have heated grips ,chain oiler so its not all bling
and no practicallity .All the mods i've done this week would be struggling to cost $40. Besides IT WONT STOP RAINING. Smile Smile Smile Smile

My G\friend wants to know why i'm so fussy with my bike but the car looks like the above bench grinder. Razz
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Post  whitey1 Sat 02 Apr 2011, 11:21 am

I'm sure I read somewhere what your car is(old Datsun?). The bikes worth so much more!
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Post  Desert Bandito Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:49 am

gus wrote:Nothing but the best tools for me. Polishing wheel. Exhaust bracket was made with a hacksaw and file.
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Now go out and polish. Very Happy
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I know i'm getting picky but i also think the rear end looks better without those tiedown knobs sticking out . Replaced with a S\Steel button head.
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While i'm being picky,why are the hoses to and from the rad. cut so short !Would look much better butted up tight to the rad. Mad

Gus,

If you would like to remove the passenger grab rail check this out.

http://shop.metrickmetal.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=90

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Post  kewwig Sun 03 Apr 2011, 5:54 pm

reddog wrote:......BTW... I take it you guys don;t get scuff marks on your rear set plates? My Sidi's have polished mine, so I can't be bothered painting them

I bought some of those self adhesive carbon fibre looking ones off EBay about a year ago. I figured if they were crap there was nothing lost. There's not a mark on them, still sticking well and I quite like the look of them:

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Post  gus Sun 03 Apr 2011, 6:44 pm

Now those on a black hanger.
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Post  kewwig Sun 03 Apr 2011, 6:51 pm

You win. I agree. How's the rattle can paint holding up? I have been thinking about some judicious powder coating in a hard wearing satin black
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Post  gus Sun 03 Apr 2011, 7:25 pm

Have not looked. Went out today nice and sunny, got hit buy a huge storm .Saturated ,parked bike at home and jumped into shower disgusted .
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Post  kewwig Sun 03 Apr 2011, 7:42 pm

That was me a week ago. First chance out. Massive rain storm and surface flooding. Grrrr. Mind you, didn't bother the bandit.
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Post  gus Sun 03 Apr 2011, 8:16 pm

I just carnt find those heel guards on E- Bay.
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Post  2wheelsagain Mon 04 Apr 2011, 3:39 pm

kewwig wrote:
I bought some of those self adhesive carbon fibre looking ones off EBay about a year ago. I figured if they were crap there was nothing lost. There's not a mark on them, still sticking well and I quite like the look of them:

I saw them a couple of years ago and didnt buy them and havent seen them since.
I think I'll buy a sheet of CF sticker and make my own Wink

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Post  kewwig Mon 04 Apr 2011, 8:32 pm

Do a Google search on part no. 990A0-64043. Plenty of sellers and take your pick as to price and who will send to Australia
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Post  2wheelsagain Tue 05 Apr 2011, 9:21 am

kewwig wrote:Do a Google search on part no. 990A0-64043. Plenty of sellers and take your pick as to price and who will send to Australia

Easy once you know the part number HERE
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