Home made Gel seat
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Kiwisteve
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Reardo
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Home made Gel seat
Making a home made gel seat don't look so hard, So why not.
All the prices in blue are (Click Here) Links to the product....
Think I'll get a kit or Gel pad when my credit card recovers from Xmas....
A new OEM Gel seat= $310
the Gel kit= $130 Medium Super Gel gel pad Installation Kit that's Gel, memory foam and smoothing foam.
or just the Gel pad = $55 in medium.
That's all Delivered.
Covers
All $60 Delivered
$90 Delivered
$190 Delivered
All the prices in blue are (Click Here) Links to the product....
Think I'll get a kit or Gel pad when my credit card recovers from Xmas....
A new OEM Gel seat= $310
the Gel kit= $130 Medium Super Gel gel pad Installation Kit that's Gel, memory foam and smoothing foam.
or just the Gel pad = $55 in medium.
That's all Delivered.
Covers
All $60 Delivered
$90 Delivered
$190 Delivered
Last edited by Reardo on Sun 30 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Update)
Re: Home made Gel seat
Hmm, $310 - $130 = $180. That seems like a pretty fair price to pay for the amount of time, extertise and profesionally finished product.
I reckon if I had to do all that work I would stuff it up big time and still be shelling out for the OEM.
I reckon if I had to do all that work I would stuff it up big time and still be shelling out for the OEM.
Re: Home made Gel seat
Yeah, I know what you are saying. But I like having a go, If I think I can do it.
And I get to spend that hundred or so on something else.............like
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And I get to spend that hundred or so on something else.............like
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Last edited by Reardo on Sun 30 Dec 2012, 9:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: Home made Gel seat
I would be interested to see how it turns out Reardo, buying seats are bloody expensive.
Graham
Graham
BoomGT- Posts : 64
Join date : 2012-09-18
Re: Home made Gel seat
Hmmmmmmm, when I first saw the subject, it got me to thinking you might be looking at using something of a second hand gel type, like used implants!
Kiwisteve- Posts : 1420
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Age : 61
Location : Coffs Coast
Re: Home made Gel seat
Indeed & Agree!BoomGT wrote:I would be interested to see how it turns out Reardo, buying seats are bloody expensive.
Graham
I like playing with boobs, Not sitting on them.Kiwisteve wrote:Hmmmmmmm, when I first saw the subject, it got me to thinking you might be looking at using something of a second hand gel type, like used implants!
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Re: Home made Gel seat
Reardo wrote:
I like playing with boobs, Not sitting on them.
^^^^^^Updated first post^^^^^^
Kiwisteve- Posts : 1420
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Re: Home made Gel seat
You must be able to source out that kind of Gel material from somewhere. And I would think that it would not be too expensive for a piece to fit into the front section of the Bandits seat.
Hammy- Posts : 4446
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I think using Gel is one of the worst things you can do anatomically. It actually assists in applying pressure to all the wrong places. If I learned anything as a cyclist, the harder the seat the more comfortable it was and I used to ride solo 24 hr MTB races on solid seats. Trust me I tried gel and its is worse. Training rides consisted of 300kms plus in a single ride over some fairly crappy roads and surfaces. The problem with gel is that its okay for the first hour or so, then it will be bad for you. Basically as you body (sit bones in your arse) start to disform the gel and shift it away this moves the gel to a place where it start to put pressure on your soft tissue. For men this can and will affect erectile function, for women it similarly affect their genital region.
Sit bones have a function and you need to let them perform their function, ie support your body when seated. Specialized (bicycle company) actually have a sit bone measuring tool so you can buy the correct seat for your anatomy, they also have a full BG (body geometry) range of products all developed by orthopedic specialists to maximise comfort. I call the sit bone measurer the ass-o-meter, no idea what its actually called, but you can replicate it easily. Get some closed cell foam and two marbles or ball bearings. Sit on the foam for about 30 seconds so your sit bones create an impression. Roll the balls into the depressions and them measure the distance apart. This is where you need support for sitting down for long periods on you motorbike seat. Better still create a channel or cut out down the middle to relieve pressure on the genital region.
With the right support you should be able to sit in the saddle for extended periods of time without any issue.
The other consideration you need to make is what you wear under your protective gear. Never, ever, ever, wear jocks, panties, briefs, tighty whities or whatever you want to call them. They have a seam or edge and guess where it runs? Right under your sit bone region, so you're sitting on it and its cutting in. Best thing to wear is something seamless like lycra pants that extend down to your leg so there is no seam to sit on. Even better for long days, get some cycling knicks with a chamois insert. I guarantee I can ride all day using cycling knicks and not even care less, even on the GS500 which only has a sheepskin cover over the standard seat. I know there was a thread joking about it recently (cycling knicks), I stayed silent knowing there would be derision, but it works, trust me.
Sit bones have a function and you need to let them perform their function, ie support your body when seated. Specialized (bicycle company) actually have a sit bone measuring tool so you can buy the correct seat for your anatomy, they also have a full BG (body geometry) range of products all developed by orthopedic specialists to maximise comfort. I call the sit bone measurer the ass-o-meter, no idea what its actually called, but you can replicate it easily. Get some closed cell foam and two marbles or ball bearings. Sit on the foam for about 30 seconds so your sit bones create an impression. Roll the balls into the depressions and them measure the distance apart. This is where you need support for sitting down for long periods on you motorbike seat. Better still create a channel or cut out down the middle to relieve pressure on the genital region.
With the right support you should be able to sit in the saddle for extended periods of time without any issue.
The other consideration you need to make is what you wear under your protective gear. Never, ever, ever, wear jocks, panties, briefs, tighty whities or whatever you want to call them. They have a seam or edge and guess where it runs? Right under your sit bone region, so you're sitting on it and its cutting in. Best thing to wear is something seamless like lycra pants that extend down to your leg so there is no seam to sit on. Even better for long days, get some cycling knicks with a chamois insert. I guarantee I can ride all day using cycling knicks and not even care less, even on the GS500 which only has a sheepskin cover over the standard seat. I know there was a thread joking about it recently (cycling knicks), I stayed silent knowing there would be derision, but it works, trust me.
ThatOtherGuy- Posts : 203
Join date : 2012-08-18
Age : 58
Location : Albany Creek
Re: Home made Gel seat
Thank you TOG for that very informative reply. Very interesting and coming from personal experience.
ps. We must organise a ride soon.
ps. We must organise a ride soon.
Hammy- Posts : 4446
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Location : The Rock
Re: Home made Gel seat
It sound like you what your talking about mate!
But. I have a large lump in my right asscheek (waiting on opp) and they say & I think too, it's from sitting & bouncing on firm flat seats. Like ride on mowers, Trucks, bikes.
Maybe what you are saying is for the riding position what they call "Greyhound rooting a golf ball position". lol
where the the sportsbike type position puts more pressure that area.
This bit is from Saddleman site.
Our Gel Channel line of seats for sport bikes are designed specifically for the rider that needs a seat that can do everything—canyon carving, track days, or commuting. Features Saddlemen’s Gel Channel (GC) technology (patent pending) that incorporates a split piece of SaddleGel and a channel in the base foam to relieve seating pressure on the perineal area, increase blood flow, and keep the rider in the saddle longer. Saddlemen sport bike seats offer high quality, light weight construction and styling that’s second-to-none. The “Sport” style series uses black-on-black, easy-to-clean cover material for the entire top portion of the seat with a matching center strip. Each “Sport” seat is slightly bucketed in the rear section to contour to the rider’s body for better control during aggressive riding. Many Gel Channel solo seats come with a matching pillion cover for a unified look. The best looking, most unique custom seat you can buy, with lines and materials designed to match specific bikes Performance oriented—the seats match the characteristics of the bikes they’re made for More comfortable than any stock seat on the market Designed specifically for the rider that needs a seat that can do everything—canyon carving, track days, or commuting Feature Gel Channel technology (patent pending) that incorporates a split piece of SaddleGel and a channel in the base foam to relieve pressure on the perineal area for all-day riding comfort Special seat cover materials allow for easy movement when riding aggressively Matching pillion cover included Black-on-black, easy-to-clean SaddleSuede micro-fiber material covers the entire top portion of the seat with a matching strip in center of the Gel Channel (GC) Slightly bucketed in the rear section to contour to the rider’s body for better control during aggressive riding Made in the U.S.A.
But. I have a large lump in my right asscheek (waiting on opp) and they say & I think too, it's from sitting & bouncing on firm flat seats. Like ride on mowers, Trucks, bikes.
Maybe what you are saying is for the riding position what they call "Greyhound rooting a golf ball position". lol
where the the sportsbike type position puts more pressure that area.
This bit is from Saddleman site.
Our Gel Channel line of seats for sport bikes are designed specifically for the rider that needs a seat that can do everything—canyon carving, track days, or commuting. Features Saddlemen’s Gel Channel (GC) technology (patent pending) that incorporates a split piece of SaddleGel and a channel in the base foam to relieve seating pressure on the perineal area, increase blood flow, and keep the rider in the saddle longer. Saddlemen sport bike seats offer high quality, light weight construction and styling that’s second-to-none. The “Sport” style series uses black-on-black, easy-to-clean cover material for the entire top portion of the seat with a matching center strip. Each “Sport” seat is slightly bucketed in the rear section to contour to the rider’s body for better control during aggressive riding. Many Gel Channel solo seats come with a matching pillion cover for a unified look. The best looking, most unique custom seat you can buy, with lines and materials designed to match specific bikes Performance oriented—the seats match the characteristics of the bikes they’re made for More comfortable than any stock seat on the market Designed specifically for the rider that needs a seat that can do everything—canyon carving, track days, or commuting Feature Gel Channel technology (patent pending) that incorporates a split piece of SaddleGel and a channel in the base foam to relieve pressure on the perineal area for all-day riding comfort Special seat cover materials allow for easy movement when riding aggressively Matching pillion cover included Black-on-black, easy-to-clean SaddleSuede micro-fiber material covers the entire top portion of the seat with a matching strip in center of the Gel Channel (GC) Slightly bucketed in the rear section to contour to the rider’s body for better control during aggressive riding Made in the U.S.A.
Re: Home made Gel seat
notice everyone one of those has a channel up the middle. also depends on the type and firmness of the gel, and size and shape of the bladder, much like foams, there are hard and soft varieties. its the really soft gels you have to steer clear of, they basically offer no support. and the larger the gel bladder, the more area it disperses over making you sink in more.
I also had large lumps under my sit bones, they were callouses from the time spent in the saddle. pride an joy of any long distance cyclist.
Hammy, I've organised a ride for January (Sunshine Coast Hinterland again) and setting one up for February (Gold Coast region and into northern NSW). I don't do rides through the BRC forums anymore, they changed hands (new part owner) and the new part owner is a bit of a , there's a soap opera behind the ownership structure which I won't go into on a public forum. Instead, I'm at a new forum that started as a result of some people not wanting to be part of it anymore, all the new forum is about is organised rides, nothing else, keep it simple. Assuming its okay with admin here, the forum is:
www.seqr.forumotion.com
Basically hosted by the same group that host this forum. You need to join to see the forums, but anyone is welcome on the rides.
I also had large lumps under my sit bones, they were callouses from the time spent in the saddle. pride an joy of any long distance cyclist.
Hammy, I've organised a ride for January (Sunshine Coast Hinterland again) and setting one up for February (Gold Coast region and into northern NSW). I don't do rides through the BRC forums anymore, they changed hands (new part owner) and the new part owner is a bit of a , there's a soap opera behind the ownership structure which I won't go into on a public forum. Instead, I'm at a new forum that started as a result of some people not wanting to be part of it anymore, all the new forum is about is organised rides, nothing else, keep it simple. Assuming its okay with admin here, the forum is:
www.seqr.forumotion.com
Basically hosted by the same group that host this forum. You need to join to see the forums, but anyone is welcome on the rides.
ThatOtherGuy- Posts : 203
Join date : 2012-08-18
Age : 58
Location : Albany Creek
Re: Home made Gel seat
Reardo wrote:Making a home made gel seat don't look so hard, So why not.
A new OEM Gel seat= $310
the Gel kit= $130 Medium Super Gel gel pad Installation Kit that's Gel, memory foam and smoothing foam.
or just the Gel pad = $55 in medium.
All $60 Delivered
$90 Delivered
$190 Delivered
HTFU $0
ThatOtherGuy wrote:
With the right support you should be able to sit in the saddle for extended periods of time without any issue.
I was thinking the same thing, it was amazing how long you could ride on the old leather bicycle saddles, once your butt was "run in". My MTB saddle presses in the wrong spot sometimes and cuts off the blood to my brain, it's a strange sensation when the feeling returns.
Re: Home made Gel seat
[quote="Re-Cycled"]
HTFU $0
maybe he can't find anyone to kiss it better
Reardo wrote:Making a home made gel seat don't look so hard, So why not.
HTFU $0
maybe he can't find anyone to kiss it better
paul- Posts : 7740
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Re: Home made Gel seat
Yep Brooks B17 saddle is my favourite, even though I cannot ride anymore, I have still kept it. Could ride a whole 24hr race on that thing without issue.Re-Cycled wrote:...ThatOtherGuy wrote:
With the right support you should be able to sit in the saddle for extended periods of time without any issue.
I was thinking the same thing, it was amazing how long you could ride on the old leather bicycle saddles, once your butt was "run in". My MTB saddle presses in the wrong spot sometimes and cuts off the blood to my brain, it's a strange sensation when the feeling returns.
ThatOtherGuy- Posts : 203
Join date : 2012-08-18
Age : 58
Location : Albany Creek
Re: Home made Gel seat
ThatOtherGuy wrote:Yep Brooks B17 saddle is my favourite, even though I cannot ride anymore, I have still kept it. Could ride a whole 24hr race on that thing without issue.
The only one who doesn't like them is Olivia Newton-John, apparently.
Re: Home made Gel seat
So I did the Saddleman Gel pad seat mod. Wasn't to hard.
I have a lump right but-cheek that makes it to painful to ride any more then 15-20 minutes
So I've just been for a 20min ride with the Gel pad inserted in to the seat and had no pain
So. So far, So good. The seat feels wider and softer. I rode up some real bumpy roads and man does that gel soak up the bumps and vibration.
I hopping get out for a long ride before my opp in two weeks, as I wont be back on it for 1 to 2 months.
I have a lump right but-cheek that makes it to painful to ride any more then 15-20 minutes
So I've just been for a 20min ride with the Gel pad inserted in to the seat and had no pain
So. So far, So good. The seat feels wider and softer. I rode up some real bumpy roads and man does that gel soak up the bumps and vibration.
I hopping get out for a long ride before my opp in two weeks, as I wont be back on it for 1 to 2 months.
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Good stuff Reardo. Sorry to hear about your butt cheek.
Hammy- Posts : 4446
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