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Post  Ironman on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 3:31 pm

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Just a few thoughts from my first track day with a "recycled" bandit (ie rescued from the auctions as a repairable write-off).

Rear sets rubber mounting needs replacing with nylon or something - they move an awful lot
Need a smaller countershaft sprocket (14t) never even saw 5th that whole day
Suspension... standard bandit fishing trawler suspension + big handfuls of throttle + equally big handfuls of brake + rapidly approaching corner with rider in front who can stop quicker than you = loaded leather race suit with compression lockup of rear tyre. 
Need gold valves up front with new fork springs + adjustable rear shock and spring to suit my heavy arse
Need new tyres better suited for track days - see pictures

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what I did like was the midrange the b12 has. Pulled well up to 8.5K but still had berries left even up to 10K. Kept up to gsxr600's down the straight but they gradually got away because of better corner entry and exit speeds. They can brake like a Mofo too. The jetting I have now is getting close but I still reckon could go richer on the Mains.

I don't have braided lines nor special disk eating grinding pads. All I did was fit the standard Ferodo Platinum pads and flushed the fluid. Seriously guys, the brakes are fine i'd even say the brakes are good. Even with this setup down the back straight at QR I saw 210-220km/h at the 200m indicator and was on front and rear brakes and down shifting like my life depended on it (because it did) and successfully made the turn each and every time.
No fade, no spongy lever front or rear. I can distinctly remember the blood rush feeling in my face and behind your eyes from decelerating HARD. It was awesome especially when I could repeatedly pull this off.
I was told by a fellow rider that the front end of my bike dove down a heap compared to everyone else out there. (soft springs heavy body).
In the pits I checked brake disk temps (front approx 55-60deg rear 150deg), barrel temp 130deg, head 140deg, oil pan 100deg, oil cooler in 109deg, oil cooler out 100deg, for the fun checked inside the exhaust outlet 300deg. Rear tyre temps LH 52 RH 60.

Overall I took a cheap sports tourer for a blast as fast as I could dare on a racetrack. I pinned the throttle wide open for as long as my nerves could stand. I burned some premium fuel, melted some rubber and shat myself all the while grinning like a deranged idiot from the shear fun of it all. As a track rider I need lots of practice. yep.... lots. But my photos look cool..... 
Highly recommend it. 
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Post  Bosco15 on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 3:46 pm

Great to see you getting stuck in.  Very Happy
Ridding on the road and track days are chalk and cheese. 
How about a bike that can give you a grin factor no matter where you're riding her. 
Way to go. Great pics.

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Post  Ewok1958 on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:24 pm

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Post  madmax on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 7:54 pm

Looks like a lot of fun

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Post  paul on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 9:48 pm

And none of those pesky chicken strips left either ............... cheers

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Post  truck on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 8:40 am

Photos look very cool Ironman. 
I can almost feel your excitement from the day by just reading the write up - Well Done!

PS: In the first shot are you wearing knee sliders?
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Post  Chook on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 8:50 am

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Post  Ironman on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 10:43 am

No knee sliders. If my knee touched the ground, it would mean i had fallen off.  Laughing

The day was dominated by GSXRs, Fireblades, R1s, BMW, Ducati adventure bike and even a DR400SM (which went around me -  and in my defence i was mentally recovering from a rear compression lockup and felt that the tyres had started to overheat and I lost confidence in their ability to grip - and thats my story'- really it is. Embarassed )

No one looked down upon me for riding a bandit. Those who I spoke to seemed to like the idea of what I was doing (rescue bike from auction, using as many second hand parts to fix her up and make her do what she wasn't designed to do)

Next year, Ill take an action camera on the bike.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 11:00 am

Sounds like a lot of fun. The Bandit is a lump and compromises must be made. 
Do some gearing tweaks by all means but don't expect supersports performance (I know you don't). Maybe a quick shifter and slipper clutch would add to the fun but you can't hide 100ish up and 245kg.

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Post  Ironman on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 1:24 pm

You know the only thing I didn't enjoy was the suspension.

The burble / crackle / popping from exhaust on decel sounded cool to me (pairs removed but still does it)

Things I would like to improve upon...

Suspension
Temp display for the main oil gallery
gear indicator
firm up the footpegs
lower bars
remove centre stand and fit bobbins to swing arm
remove indicators and mirrors / reflectors etc
retrim the seat with a speed hump behind me
a bit more main jet + headers
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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 28 Nov 2016, 9:37 am

I reckon those plugs look good. Hard to tell from colour with ULP

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Post  madmax on Mon 28 Nov 2016, 10:57 am

Ironman wrote:No knee sliders. If my knee touched the ground, it would mean i had fallen off.  Laughing


My philosophy also Very Happy
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Post  Dekenai on Mon 28 Nov 2016, 1:00 pm

Main thing I find with a heavy lump like the Bandit is to set up for corners 'gently and early'; takes a little bit of time for chassis to settle...I expect that the better the suspension the better it will cope with 'aggressive and late'.  Also, I found the fuel load makes a big difference...I go out with half a tank or less.

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Post  Ironman on Mon 28 Nov 2016, 5:12 pm

I ran it with about 10l in the tank. Obviously the less weight the better.

What I did experience was that wind resistance / noise wasn't apparent until a sudden rush at about 140km/h.

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