Aussie Riders Ticketed for Tinted Helmet Visors?

barry_mcki wrote:

paul wrote:My HJC is stamped HJC ........exceeds VESC-8 . Bought from a bike shop not a cheap  Fleebay knock-off. ( I may or may not have removed a sticker , I don't remember ............I'm getting old & forgetful )
Gees Barry , you're not an advisor for Vic Police are you   

SVDon wrote:WTF is this?   Happy we don't have this kind of hassle in the USA.  (Yet, anyway)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/helmet-hassles-bikers-accuse-police-of-giving-out-petty-visor-fines/story-fni0fit3-1227147660982?nk=9d6806ec0ff022966146ead44b9674de

barry_mcki wrote:I'm trying to get a copy of AS 1698:1981 as well as the 1982 Ammendment - from what I've read so far, the standard does not mandate stamping on the visor, but it is up to you to prove you have legal equipment, that could be difficult on the side of the road without the label and/or stamp.

BTW, love this photo:

SuzySuzuki wrote:As I mentioned on the FB page, I have a tinted Shoei  visor, with warnings imprinted in the plastic, stating it is not warranted shatterproof, and if tinted, for daytime use only. As far as im concerned, that's warning enough. ive never worn it after dusk, (actually never worn it after 6pm) and switch to the original. So far, no police have pulled me up for it, thinking they have bigger problems that to hassle a little old lady.

Hammy wrote:I was talking at some length to a mc cop on Friday while we both waited for our bikes to be serviced.  I mentioned this topic, and his reply. "Bloody wankers" . We don't bother with crap like that.  Another interesting topic we spoke about was the soon to be introduced Lane Splitting. Coming in on the 1st of January. We agreed on one thing. That  when there is a smallish group, say 5-6 riders. If they all try to split down the same lane they may end up stuck in between cars when the lights change.  Recipe for disaster.  How's that going down in Vic ?  I heard that they revoked it in SA.   Sorry to drift off topic.

We don't bother with crap like that

Ewok1958 wrote:Just checked my helmets.  The older HJC helmet has both a sticker on, and is engraved on, its standard clear visor.  
The much newer Shark Vision R2 helmet doesn't have either of these on its standard clear visor. 

barry_mcki wrote: if it is not on the visor this becomes difficult on the roadside as you are being stripped searched and undergoing interal examinations for being a criminal biker that we all are.  

2wheelsagain wrote:

Can anyone else with a Shark confirm Dave needs new glasses or not?

Tag wrote:

2wheelsagain wrote:

Can anyone else with a Shark confirm Dave needs new glasses or not?

I have a Shark.
Dave needs new glasses.

As an aside, my 3 month old Shark Vision R does not have AS markings imprinted on it's standard clear visor.

But Dave still needs new glasses.

Tag wrote:

2wheelsagain wrote:

Can anyone else with a Shark confirm Dave needs new glasses or not?

I have a Shark.
Dave needs new glasses.

As an aside, my 3 month old Shark Vision R does not have AS markings imprinted on it's standard clear visor.

But Dave still needs new glasses.

AS1609-1981 Relevant Rider Info Extracts
The standard covers attributes like stability at elevated and lower temperatures, mechanical strength, skin irritation, ventilation, ease of operation etc, mostly very dry reading and in some respects outdated in terms of modern attachment methods and coatings.
The helmet standard AS1698-1988 mandated by the ACCC under Consumer Protection Notice 9 states visors fitted to helmets must meet Australian Standard AS1609-1981. This is a variation from the voluntary AS1698-1988 standard which states AS1609.
AS1609-1981 allows the limited use of tinted and graduated visors and does not specify that a "Standards Mark" label be placed on the visor, at the time this standard was written the label was an option which could be licenced for use from Standards Australia. Packaging, Wrapping and Brochures only are required to have informative labelling.
AS1609-1981 requires marking with the manufacturer, model of helmet the visor is designed to fit and embossed clear or tinted.
AS1609-1981 specifies visors as clear or tinted by the following criteria
 
Clear Lenses are considered "clear" if they have a luminance transmittance of not less than 85%.
Tinted Lenses are permitted if they have a luminance transmittance of not less than 50%.
Gradient-density lenses are permitted if they have a luminance transmittance of not less than 50%
The standard notes, "visors assembled with a tinted strip positioned outside the normal field of view do not require specific labelling. However, the tinted area must comply with the prescribed coloration requirements and optical performance."
AS1609-1981 also states the visor must meet the coloration requirements for AS1607, the standard for sun glass lenses.
Only "integral" visors forming "a single congruous whole with a helmet" are required to be clear under AS1609-1981.
The AS1609-1981 standard does not require the Australian Standard No on the visor.
 
Note
UNECE 22.05 Visor Regulations specify visors as clear if they have a luminance transmittance of 80% or more and allow tinted visors with a luminance transmittance between 50% and 80%. There is no reference to "integral visors".
The regulations have been updated to cover surface treatments and mist retardant treatments unlike AS1609.
In the EU they are suffering problems with non compliant visors in the market place and are acting on it. The proposal includes allowing integral sun screens in helmets and lower luminance transmittance visors.