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Post  Ghostbandit Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:28 pm

I picked up my new tail tidy from my local suzuki lads today, got it for a good price, and upon opening the box you can see where the money goes, even at full retail the quality of the product is fantastic, and the attention to detail is fantastic. Glad I got it over the other ones going around. 

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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:35 pm

Looks good. Is there a question of legality? I seem to remember some discussion and figures on this topic, probably in another thread. I'm going to be embarrassed if it's above because I didn't check!
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Post  paul Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:39 pm

looks good , you can delete your other post before someone posts in it by hitting the little X by the edit button ( then you can rename this one ) Very Happy

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Post  Ghostbandit Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:42 pm

paul wrote: Laughing looks good , you can delete your other post before someone posts in it by hitting the little X by the edit button ( then you can rename this one ) Very Happy


Ah your a legend thanks paul! All fixed Laughing
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Post  Ghostbandit Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:45 pm

Ewok1958 wrote: Very Happy Looks good.  Is there a question of legality?  I seem to remember some discussion and figures on this topic, probably in another thread.  I'm going to be embarrassed if it's above because I didn't check!


Yea I'm pretty sure they arnt as they don't come out past the rear wheel and on the 45 degree bizo, I've seen heaps of bikes around town running tail tidies, have kept my original one just incase. Very Happy
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Post  Chook Thu 11 Sep 2014, 6:57 am

Ghostbandit wrote:
Ewok1958 wrote: Very Happy Looks good.  Is there a question of legality?  I seem to remember some discussion and figures on this topic, probably in another thread.  I'm going to be embarrassed if it's above because I didn't check!


Yea I'm pretty sure they arnt as they don't come out past the rear wheel and on the 45 degree bizo, I've seen heaps of bikes around town running tail tidies, have kept my original one just incase. Very Happy
Correct, the mudgaurd has to extend down to a imaginary line no higher than 45 degrees from the rear axle. It doesn't have to be big and bulky though, it only has to cover the centre of the tyre
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Post  barry_mcki Thu 11 Sep 2014, 12:16 pm

Was there ever an answer on using a Ducati Diavel style mudguard ?

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Post  madmax Thu 11 Sep 2014, 12:57 pm

affraid Is that attached to the rear disc Barry?

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Post  barry_mcki Thu 11 Sep 2014, 1:25 pm

madmax wrote: affraid  Is that attached to the rear disc Barry?

Sorry, 5 minutes in photoshop doesn't always give perfect engineering results Shocked Smile Very Happy

Here's a better view:

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Post  Truck bandit Thu 11 Sep 2014, 2:06 pm

Just got off the RMS website in the Vehicle Standards Information section (No. 28): Guidelines for Modifications to Motorcycles!

Section 4: Mudguards states that - A rearwheel or side car wheel mudguard must extend at least from a point vertically above the front of the tyre to a point vertically above the rear of the tyre. It must be mounted as close as practicable to the tyre. (The diagram shows a bikes rear wheel and swingarm with MINIMUM COVERAGE indicated by lines drawn vertically from the front of the tyre and from the back of the tyre, basically this distance would be the diameter of the tyre.)
One could argue that the rear brake light sits out behind the vertical line from the rear of the tyre, therefore your tail tidy would comply!!!
No need for the Ducati style add on shown in the pic above???

I have a Hot Bodies under seat unit incorporating 2 individual red rear lights with the number plate screwed into this. No hugger either.
The rear point of the bike sticks out further than the vertical line from the tyre, therefore I feel as if I comply with this guideline!!!

Bikes like modified Streetfighters or the Cafe Racers that Hipsters ride may come into a bit of trouble as they often are a single seat with no guard at all over the rear portion of the rear tyre.

Keep your rear tail tidy I say and show off that nice fat 180 rear tyre.

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Post  Ghostbandit Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:03 pm

Truck, I like the way you've read that, top find and interpretation Very Happy, I was just going to play dumb if worst case  lol!
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Post  Ghostbandit Thu 11 Sep 2014, 3:16 pm

barry_mcki wrote:
madmax wrote: affraid  Is that attached to the rear disc Barry?

Sorry, 5 minutes in photoshop doesn't always give perfect engineering results Shocked Smile Very Happy

Here's a better view:

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I was never a big fan of this on the back if the diavel, I think it makes the back side look more cluttered and hides that sexy rear tyre, just my 2c
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Post  madmax Thu 11 Sep 2014, 4:19 pm

I think you'll find the size of that shovel is just for us.

US model is just a plate holder
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My guess is the designers would have preferred it not to be there at all

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Post  Ghostbandit Thu 11 Sep 2014, 4:46 pm

madmax wrote:I think you'll find the size of that shovel is just for us.

US model is just a plate holder
R&G tail tidy 1250s bandit Diavel_2011_Studio_B_D01

My guess is the designers would have preferred it not to be there at all

That wouldn't surprise me...... That one looks a lot nicer, Good old aust over policing every walk of life....
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Post  Chook Thu 11 Sep 2014, 8:15 pm

What are the requirements in Europe? Back in the 70s we followed the US for design rules, now we are usually a few years behind Europe
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Post  NTBill Mon 15 Sep 2014, 5:28 pm

Keep your Tail tidy.

The requirements (for rear guard extension) of ADR42 are to be be repealed to align with the UNECE regs.
Media release from the Feds today.

http://www.minister.infrastructure.gov.au/jb/releases/2014/September/jb096_2014.aspx

What this means is that given that a vehicle can comply with a later applicable ADR (but not an earlier one) it therefore would apply to an in-service (already registered) vehicle.
While it might take some time for Police etc to catch on, you'd be on pretty safe ground to challenge any action against a tail tidy given this repeal.

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Post  barry_mcki Mon 15 Sep 2014, 6:15 pm

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Post  madmax Mon 15 Sep 2014, 9:02 pm

NTBill wrote:Keep your Tail tidy.

The requirements (for rear guard extension) of ADR42 are to be be repealed to align with the UNECE regs.
Media release from the Feds today.

http://www.minister.infrastructure.gov.au/jb/releases/2014/September/jb096_2014.aspx

What this means is that given that a vehicle can comply with a later applicable ADR (but not an earlier one) it therefore would apply to an in-service (already registered) vehicle.
While it might take some time for Police etc to catch on, you'd be on pretty safe ground to challenge any action against a tail tidy given this repeal.

Bill

Well now that fucking unusual, a government decision that makes sense Shocked

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Post  reddog Mon 15 Sep 2014, 10:27 pm

Now to abolishing out of date helmet ADRs and we'll be set
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Post  Jimmy the Boy Tue 16 Sep 2014, 8:15 am

Tail tidy looks great. Just throw a carbon or equivalent hugger on there. They look cool ( imho ) and will stop your new tail tidy and everything near it getting covered in shit.
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Post  Ghostbandit Thu 18 Sep 2014, 8:26 pm

NTBill wrote:Keep your Tail tidy.

The requirements (for rear guard extension) of ADR42 are to be be repealed to align with the UNECE regs.
Media release from the Feds today.

http://www.minister.infrastructure.gov.au/jb/releases/2014/September/jb096_2014.aspx

What this means is that given that a vehicle can comply with a later applicable ADR (but not an earlier one) it therefore would apply to an in-service (already registered) vehicle.
While it might take some time for Police etc to catch on, you'd be on pretty safe ground to challenge any action against a tail tidy given this repeal.

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You bloody ripper  Very Happy Wouldn't want to take it off either makes her look so much cleaner
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Post  Ghostbandit Thu 18 Sep 2014, 8:28 pm

Jimmy the Boy wrote:Tail tidy looks great. Just throw a carbon or equivalent hugger on there. They look cool ( imho ) and will stop your new tail tidy and everything near it getting covered in shit.

Hey jimmy, been eyeing them off, can't decide which I would like to go for, not to sure if the carbon look ones will look cheap against the proper carbon fibre can and tank protector
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Post  Sounder Sat 04 Oct 2014, 2:06 pm

Fitted one to mine last night. Pretty simple job. Now I need some flash little LED blinkers.

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Post  reddog Sat 04 Oct 2014, 2:40 pm

Get decent LEDs to start with such as Rizoma or you will be wasting your money.
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Post  Ghostbandit Sat 04 Oct 2014, 8:35 pm

reddog wrote:Get decent LEDs to start with such as Rizoma or you will be wasting your money. 

I got ones from the2wheels.com they are nice and bright, liked the look of them fits in well with the look,
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