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Post  sb1250 Sat 02 Aug 2014, 11:27 am

Just put my new rear tyre on and noticed rust on the frame!

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The rust runs along the top of the pillion foot peg mtg brkt, and it's only on the left side.
Never had this on any of my previous steel framed bikes.
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Post  2wheelsagain Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:15 pm

Suzuki didnt use paint on the GSF1250 mate. I'm unsure what it is but I dont think anyone else calls it paint  Mad
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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:18 pm

There are several brands of rust converter around.  Killrust makes one, then put on some primer, then a couple of coats of some real black paint.  Killrust will be expensive for such a small area though.  Hope there are more.  No
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Post  sb1250 Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:30 pm

When the weather warms up a bit, I'll attack it with the rust converter I'm using on my other toy. I'd better be careful spraying real paint on one side....... The extra weight might pull the bike to the left!!
You're right Chris, worst excuse for paint EVER!!
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Post  reddog Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:10 pm

I have rust where the frame is welded near the foot pegs and near the radiator mounts. Have to find a matching paint for the silver frame and I'll rust concert prime and paint. May as well mask excepting possible and paint the whole frame so there at least one coat of decent paint:P
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Post  truck Sun 14 Jun 2015, 7:56 pm

Hi All,
just looking through old threads for examples of fellow Bandit Brothers and Sisters who have found rust under the tank protector sticker? that sits at the back of the fuel tank and stops the tank from being scratched from belt buckles, flies etc.
I've got an old 2002 bandit and have removed the sticker and found what I condsider major rust on the fuel tank. A fellow rider has suggested I check the inside of the tank but I dont think that will be a problem as there is no weeping showing on the outside of the tank so it should not have rust on the inside - Yes?
Slipped into SuperCheap for paint.
Question: Do I need to use the 3 step paint they advertise (but I can only find the 3rd step in the store!), or is rust converter then top coat of gloss black from a paint can good enough as the old bandit wont win any shows.
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Post  truck Tue 23 Jun 2015, 8:40 pm

OK, I am trying this to stop the rust and then might paint the tank blue again or flat black just to personalize it a bit. Apologies if the picture is BIG but I cant remember how to upload to a reasonable size picture
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Post  paul Wed 24 Jun 2015, 12:29 am

That's an amazing amount of rust  Shocked
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Post  Chook Wed 24 Jun 2015, 6:14 am

I hadn't found a tank protector I relly liked so never got around to putting one on, looking at that I'm glad I didn't, think I'll just get it resprayed later if it gets too scratched  Shocked
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Post  BanditDave Wed 24 Jun 2015, 6:50 am

I'm not convinced that any "sticky" that you put on your paintwork will not contain some sort of solvent that will do long term damage.

I have been using pieces of laminating film on my tank sourced from the local vinyl wrap shop.

I visited two shops enquiring about vinyl products and came away with a square metre of clear offcuts to play with. That should last me years.

The product I got is Oraguard 215 which I understand is similar to 3m and other brands. My samples are clear but it comes in a large range of colours and patterns.

Interestingly, on the 3m website it states that their product can be removed up to 3 years after applying without any paint damage but doesn't guarantee a good result beyond this date.

Because of the amount I have acquired I peel it off every 6 months and put on a fresh piece.
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Post  madmax Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:06 am

truck wrote:Question: Do I need to use the 3 step paint they advertise (but I can only find the 3rd step in the store!), or is rust converter then top coat of gloss black from a paint can good enough as the old bandit wont win any shows.
Thanks all.

It should be; rust converter - primer - top coat - clear coat.
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Post  madmax Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:09 am

My tank protector is clear so I'd like to hope if there is any rust developing underneath it I'd see it.
Also using two pieces of clear vinyl on the sides of the tank


Truck how long was the tank protector on there?
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Post  Hammy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 9:38 am

Can't tell for sure. But that looks like some really bad pitting. I would be looking for a 2nd hand tank.  You might even get lucky and score a blue one.  Best of luck.
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Post  truck Wed 24 Jun 2015, 11:37 am

Thanks MM for the order of paint application.
I bought the old girl in about 2006 and its been on since I've had it. It just flaked off when I removed it.

Hammy - it is as bad as it can get but it has no seepage so I am going to stick with the tank and give it a paint job.
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Post  paul Wed 24 Jun 2015, 6:17 pm

These things can lift / come unstuck sometimes depending on the brand ...................I wonder if the previous owner re-glued it back on with a different type of glue  Question
 Are you going to bog it up to smooth the rough bits over ?
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Post  Hammy Thu 25 Jun 2015, 6:10 am

To do it properly you know that you will have to grind/sand back to bare metal.  Who knows how thin the metal will be then ?   Scary.
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Post  reddog Thu 25 Jun 2015, 8:15 am

There's a great thread on asb on an r1 fuel tank repair http://www.aussiestreetbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30283
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Post  madmax Thu 25 Jun 2015, 2:29 pm

reddog wrote:There's a great thread on asb on an r1 fuel tank repair http://www.aussiestreetbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30283


don't sand it that much that you go through the metal(it could happen quite easily)

This guy is scary
or in my case filling a dent about 10mm deep.
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I guess no magnetic tank bag for this guy

a few high spots from where I got a bit carried away with my stick bashing so I just give them a little tappity tap tap with a hammer before my second bog application

Thank god he's in WA and I'm not likely to ever use him
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Post  reddog Thu 25 Jun 2015, 2:48 pm

It's for his dirt drag r1 which he has nitrous fitted
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Post  madmax Thu 25 Jun 2015, 3:56 pm

reddog wrote:It's for his dirt drag r1 which he has nitrous fitted

I'm just referring to his abilities as a panel beater.
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Post  reddog Thu 25 Jun 2015, 8:30 pm

I reckon from the wreck he was working from he made a silk purse out of a sows ear. I'd certainly use the guy for paint, he knows what he is doing.
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Post  Chook Thu 25 Jun 2015, 9:18 pm

rough as guts panel beating, he should let someone that knows what they're doing do the straightening, if you need that much bog it's either too far gone to fix or he has no idea.
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Post  madmax Thu 25 Jun 2015, 9:41 pm

Chook wrote:rough as guts panel beating, he should let someone that knows what they're doing do the straightening, if you need that much bog it's either too far gone to fix or he has no idea.
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Post  reddog Thu 25 Jun 2015, 11:05 pm

I wouldn't have bothered, but he is a painter by trade I believe so paint etc is cheap. Buying a new tank would've been a cheaper option for most of us

The tank was trashed Thin paint n rust IMG_1281

Not a bad finish though
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Post  Chook Fri 26 Jun 2015, 5:48 am

I'd like to see it in the flesh, not sure if it's reflections I can see or orange peel and other imperfections
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