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Post  Sunshine Coast Mikey Sat 09 Jun 2012, 5:44 pm

searching the internet for Yoshi slip-on and i keep getting mainly GSF 1250FA???? WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE!!??
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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 6:04 pm

The Yoshi website doesn't care - it lists GSF1250/GSX1250 together. That suggests to me there is no difference in the fit of their cans for either the GSF or the GSX.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/t-NP_08_GSF1250S.aspx
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Post  kewwig Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 pm

No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff
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Post  Vellies Wed 13 Jun 2012, 2:50 pm

I have a GSX1250FA. Looked at my compliance plate last week and it actually says GSF1250S. So not sure it matters.

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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 13 Jun 2012, 4:21 pm

Vellies wrote:I have a GSX1250FA. Looked at my compliance plate last week and it actually says GSF1250S. So not sure it matters.
That cant be right......... Shocked
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Post  madmax Wed 13 Jun 2012, 6:30 pm

kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff

What is the difference in the shock?
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Post  madmax Wed 13 Jun 2012, 6:32 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:
Vellies wrote:I have a GSX1250FA. Looked at my compliance plate last week and it actually says GSF1250S. So not sure it matters.
That cant be right......... Shocked

Maybe its a GSF that's been tarted up to look like a GSX Twisted Evil
I'll be checking mine tomorrow
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Post  kewwig Wed 13 Jun 2012, 6:49 pm

madmax wrote:
kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff

What is the difference in the shock?

There was an article in Sport Rider where they tarted up a GSX1250FA with Dale Walker's gear. I have a lot of his stuff (I even have the actual fork brace from their test bike), and noted their comment:

"The high-quality shock is available only through Holeshot Performance, with a modest retail price of $645. We found that in the transition from GSF/Bandit to GSX, Suzuki has slightly changed the rear suspension linkage; a shock intended for the earlier models will not fit the GSX. Take care when ordering suspension bits for either model." (I pass this on but haven't checked for myself)

Read more: http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1201_project_suzuki_gsx1250fa/viewall.html#ixzz1xf3IGwX7
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Post  madmax Wed 13 Jun 2012, 7:06 pm

kewwig wrote:
madmax wrote:
kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff

What is the difference in the shock?

There was an article in Sport Rider where they tarted up a GSX1250FA with Dale Walker's gear. I have a lot of his stuff (I even have the actual fork brace from their test bike), and noted their comment:

"The high-quality shock is available only through Holeshot Performance, with a modest retail price of $645. We found that in the transition from GSF/Bandit to GSX, Suzuki has slightly changed the rear suspension linkage; a shock intended for the earlier models will not fit the GSX. Take care when ordering suspension bits for either model." (I pass this on but haven't checked for myself)

Read more: http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_1201_project_suzuki_gsx1250fa/viewall.html#ixzz1xf3IGwX7

Thanks for that, food for thought when looking for a replacement. Although they don't actually say whats different
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Post  kewwig Wed 13 Jun 2012, 7:51 pm

Be interesting to know. The GSF and GSX shocks are a different part number. I think the difference is in the cast mount pivot, but someone will need to look.
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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 13 Jun 2012, 8:19 pm

kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff
I could be pedantic and say the muffler is different but I won't Razz
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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 13 Jun 2012, 8:28 pm

kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff

And the standard springs in the front forks are different apparently (to handle the weight of the fairing). Probably bugger all, but that's what I've read several times.
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Post  madmax Wed 13 Jun 2012, 8:52 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:
kewwig wrote:No difference for anything other than fairing, instruments, radiator and lower shock mount. Accessories, mufflers, brakes, seats, all fit the same, and the GSF search will give more stuff

And the standard springs in the front forks are different apparently (to handle the weight of the fairing). Probably bugger all, but that's what I've read several times.

I've read the same, the extra weight from the 'S' model to a 'FA' would be 2/3 of stuff all. Only really the weight of the lower fairings and a slightly larger radiator
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Post  Ewok1958 Wed 13 Jun 2012, 9:00 pm

It does raise a good point. The biggest criticism of the Bandit (from those who spent a lot more Crying or Very sad ) is that it has 'cheap suspension'. Did Suzuki actually put a heavier spring (and different valves?) in the FA, not because it needed it, but because they were responding to criticism of the GSF's front, soft, suspension? Or am I just being optomistic? Question
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Post  NTBill Wed 13 Jun 2012, 9:52 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:
Vellies wrote:I have a GSX1250FA. Looked at my compliance plate last week and it actually says GSF1250S. So not sure it matters.
That cant be right......... Shocked

Seems to be. Mine ( a GSX1250FA) says same thing "GSF1250S". Wouldn't read too much into that though. The compliance plate on my Bavarian F650Gs actually says its an "F800". It depends on what model evidence the manufacturer or importer has put through to the Feds for the ADR compliance.

Same ADRs will apply across the model range regardless of minor tech specification differences. In other words, I wouldn't necessarily put my faith in the compliance plate when ordering parts.
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Post  joanne2167 Tue 10 Jul 2012, 7:38 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:It does raise a good point. The biggest criticism of the Bandit (from those who spent a lot more Crying or Very sad ) is that it has 'cheap suspension'. Did Suzuki actually put a heavier spring (and different valves?) in the FA, not because it needed it, but because they were responding to criticism of the GSF's front, soft, suspension? Or am I just being optomistic? Question

My hubby rode my new GSX1250FA for its first 1,ooo Ks and his only gripes were surging on a constant/feathered throttle and the suspension that seemed over-sprung or possibly under dampened. He wound the front pre-load right out which improved it, but still felt it needed softer springs. He is 75 kilos and I didn't ride pillion.
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Post  Kaupy1962 Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:58 pm

I'm 112kg and have no problems with the suspension at all
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Post  jaba01 Thu 12 Jul 2012, 12:29 am

I think it's the dog bone that's different. I fitted a Holeshot (Cogent) rear shock and had to modify the end U mount slightly to allow it to fit. Other than that it works a treat.
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Post  kewwig Thu 12 Jul 2012, 7:31 pm

Welcome back, Jaba
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Post  jaba01 Thu 12 Jul 2012, 11:04 pm

Kia ora Cousie Very Happy
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Post  glenby Sun 15 Jul 2012, 5:49 pm

Suzuki's website does not have a fully fared GSF image nor a semi or naked GSX.
it seems to me that the gsf range is either naked or semi fared. the gsx is fully fared. seat is higher too based on specs.

from looking at my gsf (and it says gsf on compliance plate) it looks the same as gsx from online pics etc except for faring. guages are the same, layout etc.

sounds like marketing. Like a Star @ heaven

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Post  kewwig Sun 15 Jul 2012, 5:57 pm

The GSX1250FA has the GSXR fairing and has different gauges, a gear indicator, slightly heaver fork springs, a larger radiator with twin fans and is otherwise a Bandit.

The Bandits did come out in some markets with a lower fairing and were marketed in NZ as the "touring" model (GSF1250SATK8), in the UK as the "GT" and in Canada as the SEA.

The later model naked Bandits in some markets wore the instruments from the GSX1250FA.

Much the same bike other than the fairing and luggage and pipes/seats etc will fit almost all models
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Post  glenby Sun 15 Jul 2012, 6:02 pm

mebbee that is what is on with my bike.
springs are very firm - but it only has 1 fan.
oh well - me = happy with it so far. about the only downer I am having is speeding too often.

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