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Post  ES2 Tue 14 Feb 2012, 9:39 pm

Recently I exchanged the muffler to a Yoshimira in order to provide some awareness for cars that I approach
from behind. I am really pleased with this except for the back fire noise on deceleration. Can anyone offer any solution?

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Post  reddog Tue 14 Feb 2012, 9:48 pm

You need to block the pair system. Or get rid of it. I'm sure Gus or someone else took some pics of how to block it.
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Post  Reardo Tue 14 Feb 2012, 10:15 pm

PAIR's removal<<<<Click there. read 1 or all for the quick fix or full removal to fix the back fire>

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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 15 Feb 2012, 7:21 am

PAIRS blocking will fix it but have you got a good seal between the collector and the link pipe? Did you use the woven gasket?
Mine doesn't pop much at all (Beowulf) because its not sucking air half way along the system.
A "good fit" isn't good enough.

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Post  chips Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:18 am

I like the noise..... Embarassed

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Post  kewwig Wed 15 Feb 2012, 7:16 pm

4wheelsagain wrote:PAIRS blocking will fix it but have you got a good seal between the collector and the link pipe? Did you use the woven gasket?
Mine doesn't pop much at all (Beowulf) because its not sucking air half way along the system.
A "good fit" isn't good enough.

The Yoshi is a tight fit on the collector and no gasket is used. The popping is the PAIR and plugging will fix it with no ill effects
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Post  2wheelsagain Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:00 pm

kewwig wrote:
4wheelsagain wrote:PAIRS blocking will fix it but have you got a good seal between the collector and the link pipe? Did you use the woven gasket?
Mine doesn't pop much at all (Beowulf) because its not sucking air half way along the system.
A "good fit" isn't good enough.

The Yoshi is a tight fit on the collector and no gasket is used. The popping is the PAIR and plugging will fix it with no ill effects
With respect. Bullshit. If that's the case the stocker would pop as well. Have a listen to others hat don't sound like a machine gun.
Removing PAIRS stops the popping no question. It might be a case that the Yoshi flange wont accept the gasket and removing PAIRS is he only option. Wink

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Post  Reardo Thu 16 Feb 2012, 7:19 am

4wheelsagain wrote:
The Yoshi is a tight fit on the collector and no gasket is used. The popping is the PAIR and plugging will fix it with no ill effects


With respect. Bullshit

They don't need it mate!

The standard popes too. It's very big and very baffled.

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Post  madmax Thu 16 Feb 2012, 8:31 am

Even if you aren't using a gasket you should still be using a smear of muffler/exhaust sealant.

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Post  Reardo Thu 16 Feb 2012, 6:33 pm

madmax wrote:Even if you aren't using a gasket you should still be using a smear of muffler/exhaust sealant.
Well I ran it for over 2years without exhaust sealer and 6 months with it, now 4 months without. The only difference is the sealer makes it hard to get the Can off Twisted Evil

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*Removed Secondaries.
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*Arrow race headers with Yoshimura TRS.
*PC3 with the supplied map and these mod got 123hp with 115nm of torque.
*Neville Lush Racing custom tune = 130hp with 125nm at the Tyre (Standard 98hp/108nm).
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Post  kewwig Thu 16 Feb 2012, 7:47 pm

I'm with Reardo on this one. Yoshimura don't specify gasket sealer for their mufflers. They are a tight fit to the link pipe, and with or without any sealer (no way a gasket fits), they pop the same without the PAIR blocked. As Reardo says, sealer just makes it a bitch to get off. If you had a major air leak you may get a little more popping, but having done a few now, it's the PAIR.

I am told the stock pipe also pops, but because it's so heavily baffled, you simply don't hear it
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Post  Re-Cycled Thu 16 Feb 2012, 8:21 pm

Reardo wrote:
madmax wrote:Even if you aren't using a gasket you should still be using a smear of muffler/exhaust sealant.
Well I ran it for over 2years without exhaust sealer and 6 months with it, now 4 months without. The only difference is the sealer makes it hard to get the Can off Twisted Evil

Aren't you afraid of CO leaking into the cockpit at suffocating you? Shocked

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Post  Reardo Fri 17 Feb 2012, 8:26 am

Re-Cycled wrote:
Reardo wrote:
madmax wrote:Even if you aren't using a gasket you should still be using a smear of muffler/exhaust sealant.
Well I ran it for over 2years without exhaust sealer and 6 months with it, now 4 months without. The only difference is the sealer makes it hard to get the Can off Twisted Evil

Aren't you afraid of CO leaking into the cockpit at suffocating you? Shocked
It's ok, it only kill a couple of brain cells. and now don't have to play dumb Rolling Eyes

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*HealTech Gear Indicator w/tre "Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator is needed".
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*Arrow race headers with Yoshimura TRS.
*PC3 with the supplied map and these mod got 123hp with 115nm of torque.
*Neville Lush Racing custom tune = 130hp with 125nm at the Tyre (Standard 98hp/108nm).
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Post  b12mick Fri 17 Feb 2012, 11:06 am

chips wrote:I like the noise..... Embarassed

I'm with you.
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Post  calaleu Fri 17 Feb 2012, 3:31 pm

I got the Yoshi R77 Carbon End and no issues about leaks. I even followed the instructions on drilling a 5mm hole to insert the locking rivet on the link pipe and header joint. - I used the Busa Marble Trick!!!, went to a $2 shop and got some marbles, they fit nicely to the hose from the airbox leading to the PAIR system. Backfire gone!!!

I liked it at first but it got to a point that it its irritating. :-)
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