Don't trust them - puncture repair

About 4-5 months ago I picked up a roofing screw in my back tyre. At that time I was lucky I was only about a k from home and the screw was holding air.
I repaired it with the kit I keep on the bike which is the liquorice stick type kit. As I repaired it at home I used my compressor instead of the CO2 cylinders in the kit.

Today that repair fell into the tyre! How it can fall in is beyond my thinking, with 42psi of pressure trying to force it out.

Anyway It is now fixed with a mushroom plug. Here's hoping that doesn't fall in.

Now I'm $35 dollars down. and my repair kit needs replenishing. Though as the 3 CO2 cylinders are insufficient for the rear tyre I'm now thinking a mini compressor might be a better option

Anybody got any better ideas? got to sort this out before November

to be honest mate, others may have a different opinion, but those repairs kits are for temp purpose only, I wouldn`t use one as a permanent fix.

as has been stated in other pages on here, and as you have done,take the tyre off and get it properly fixed at a tyre joint with a permanent plug

I've repaired a Bandit tyre (friends) on a ride and we needed 5 of the CO2 cylinders to get it pumped. Lost a bit of air doing it tho. Had a few hundred kms to ride back to Darwin and it worked fine for the trip home, but agree its best to get a proper fix done ASAP.

mtbeerwah wrote:to be honest mate, others may have a different opinion, but those repairs kits are for temp purpose only, I wouldn`t use one as a permanent fix.

as has been stated in other pages on here, and as you have done,take the tyre off and get it properly fixed at a tyre joint with a permanent plug

Yep I'm hearing you, reason why I left it was I've heard of people getting 10,000 ks + out of them

madmax wrote:About 4-5 months ago I picked up a roofing screw in my back tyre. At that time I was lucky I was only about a k from home and the screw was holding air.
I repaired it with the kit I keep on the bike which is the liquorice stick type kit. As I repaired it at home I used my compressor instead of the CO2 cylinders in the kit.

Today that repair fell into the tyre! How it can fall in is beyond my thinking, with 42psi of pressure trying to force it out.

Anyway It is now fixed with a mushroom plug. Here's hoping that doesn't fall in.

Now I'm $35 dollars down. and my repair kit needs replenishing. Though as the 3 CO2 cylinders are insufficient for the rear tyre I'm now thinking a mini compressor might be a better option

Anybody got any better ideas? got to sort this out before November

check out http://www.pashnit.com/product/stopngo.html?utm_source=FALL+2013+SALE&utm_campaign=Fall+Sale&utm_medium=email#international . They have some good repair kits.

Kaupy1962 wrote:

madmax wrote:...Now I'm $35 dollars down. and my repair kit needs replenishing. Though as the 3 CO2 cylinders are insufficient for the rear tyre I'm now thinking a mini compressor might be a better option

Anybody got any better ideas? got to sort this out before November

check out http://www.pashnit.com/product/stopngo.html?utm_source=FALL+2013+SALE&utm_campaign=Fall+Sale&utm_medium=email#international . They have some good repair kits.

I bought this kit from Pashnit, haven't had to use it in anger yet (touch wood).  The compressor is a bit noisy and has stupid looking metal folding feet, but it does the job.  I've rigged up an external 12v plug as well.



At US$150 a little expensive, but I thought it was worth the money when you consider the cost of CO2 cartridges or getting to a shop on a long weekend etc. With my rig there is no problems with finding somewhere to stow it, Pashnit show on their site it fitting under the seat if you don't have extra storage.

I got a puncture 1500Km into a 7500Km ride a few years ago.

I had my repair kit including 6 CO2 cartridges on board.

The puncture was three (yep 3) nails next to each other probably from a nail gun clip.

We took the nails out of the tyre and not surprisingly it went flat pretty much instantly.

Reaming out the holes in the tyre was  a bit of a challenge as the tyre would move with the reamer but eventually we got the three holes cleaned out.

We attempted to push in the repair plugs but found the tyre had to be fairly well inflated or the plugs would not go in.

A fellow traveller had a 12 volt compressor with him.

We had to keep the compressor running whilst pushing the three plugs into the tyre, each plug being easier than the previous one as less air was escaping.

We got the tyre to hold pressure but could not have achieved this if I had to depend on only six CO2 cartridges.

The tyre lasted the remaining 6000Km of the ride plus a further 6000Km after.

Moral of the story.
The repair plugs do a great job but do not expect to get your tyre fixed without the use of a compressor. I reckon the $20+ cheapies would get you out of trouble and could probably be mounted under the fairing of the Bandit (if you have a fairing of course)

i got one these for $20 and ripped off all the black plastic and put on some battery clips and carry stopngo

Baz wrote:i got one these for $20 and ripped off all the black plastic and put on some battery clips and carry stopngo

Same as Baz, only mine whistles when it reaches the pressure you pre-set, and I carry a pcl pencil gauge for accurate/consistent pressure setting.

I think the Tom Cat compressor looks good for just a bit more money.

E.G. http://www.tomcatdistribution.com.au/tire-inflation-devices/tomcat-mini-air-compressor

Been thinking about getting one of these so have taken Re-Cycled suggestion and bought the Tomcat on eBay.
$29, free postage from Sydney.

thanks for the input guys.
Has anyone any experience with these. reviewed in ARR



motopressor

Yep, I pulled the guts out of a $20 one from Supercheap and it looked very similar

BanditDave wrote:Yep, I pulled the guts out of a $20 one from Supercheap and it looked very similar

Exactly like mine, with a few of the mechanicals covered up for safety.

so you pay $30 extra for the privilege of someone else pulling it to bits for you, sounds like a good idea.......

I couldn't find any of the larger co2 cylinders in the Latrobe Valley when I picked up a puncture in Tyres (a bit ironic).  So, I bought a cheap compressor (either BigW or Supercheap - can't remember).  It fits in the tank bag (just) and I successfully inflated a flat Bandit tyre (under test) just to be sure it worked.   I don't bother to carry my remaining CO2 cylinders.  I like the idea of a compressor made for bikers - it at least shows someone out there sees our needs.

I've been using the 'licorice' plugs for over 20 years and have never had a problem. They have always lasted the life of the tyre. One bit of advice though. If the plug goes in easily,it will come out easily. I never use them if the tyre is below1/4 tread. In that case I will get a new tyre

mtbeerwah wrote:to be honest mate, others may have a different opinion, but those repairs kits are for temp purpose only, I wouldn`t use one as a permanent fix.

as has been stated in other pages on here, and as you have done,take the tyre off and get it properly fixed at a tyre joint with a permanent plug

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Those temp repairs are dangerous IMHO and I'm pretty sure they don't meet any of the required standards

I've done many many thousands of km's with those temp plugs and never had a problem. However, they should be almost impossible to push in if you want them to last. Otherwise get a shop to put in a mushroom plug.

Always been in limping distance of a servo so never had to use the cartridges but I doubt they would be much use on a 180 rear tyre.

Sloth_27 wrote:I've done many many thousands of km's with those temp plugs and never had a problem. However, they should be almost impossible to push in if you want them to last. Otherwise get a shop to put in a mushroom plug.

Always been in limping distance of a servo so never had to use the cartridges but I doubt they would be much use on a 180 rear tyre.

See that's the thing, it stayed in for 4 or 5 months then decided to fail. Maybe it was stress on the tyre from the twisties I had not long been through. Whatever the cause, they're a temporary thing for me now.
And f*#k the cartridges I'll be buying a mini compressor

Bought a Tomcat mini air compressor of ebay.

See review