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Post  gus Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:30 am

Whats behind that silver plug ,this.
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A clip holding the secondary shaft that the butterflies have been removed from .So ,its useless in theory , and you lot know what I'm thinking dont you .
The shaft goes through the 4 intakes ,bad in itself (yes ? )
The other end has some round thing (technical term Razz ) on the end of the shaft .
How about cutting the shaft so the intakes are clear ?
The round thing doesn't know if the shaft is 30mm or 300 mm .
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Post  truck Wed 15 Aug 2012, 5:35 am

Just when I though you had beaten your addiction to tinkering Gus, but yes we, or at least I am with you to see what creation you come up with next.
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Post  Re-Cycled Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:21 am

How are you going to reseal the hole left in the intakes?

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Post  barry_mcki Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:28 am

Carbon Fibre miniture welsh plugs Very Happy

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Post  gus Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:32 pm

The left one will still be in place as it has to operate , it will (would be)cut so its level with the intake but not travel threw it , The same goes
for the right one ,clip stay's in place .
That leaves 6 holes.Arrrr, how about bungs or the rod sealed in the holes .??/

I'll need to have a look .
Probably no real advantage in doing all this ,but the thought of that rod blocking air annoyes me .

Inthe Topic "devils work " (search box ) Their is a pic of the butterflies removed on my best dress .Could some one who knows how copy that pic and
post it bellow .It makes it a lot easyer to understand .Thanks .
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Post  barry_mcki Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:34 pm

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Post  reddog Wed 15 Aug 2012, 7:39 pm

Why not try Devcon or some of that kneed it metal putty to fill the holes?
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Post  gus Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:05 pm

Its a bit of a scary thought what to put in those holes in case the motor eats it .I did like my last thought as i was riding .Something like that
surf legrope stuff or rubber .Pull it through the holes keeping it streached (so its smaller )let it go so it expands , trim ends .like a ear plug does .If it gets sucked in, it might just get spat out with no harm .Thanks Barry

The more i look at that bar the more i want rid of it .
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Post  moto1 Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:27 am

I still can't get over that floral dress! lol!
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Post  2wheelsagain Thu 16 Aug 2012, 12:16 pm

I havent taken mine out but its sounding like its more trouble than its worth.
But can you drill more holes in the bar and lessen the % blocked?
Its taking up what 5% now but is helping to swirl the air flow which the engine might need for good combustion.

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Post  dhula Thu 16 Aug 2012, 8:00 pm

The shaft the goes from the STVA to the STPS needs to be there.
How are you guna work around that?

Leave well enough alone and just ride.

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Post  gus Sat 18 Aug 2012, 2:49 pm

Firstly, the pic is the end of the trottle bodys not the secondaryies ,my mistake .
The secondaries are run buy a motor in the CENTRE of the 4 intakes (black plastic thing ).When this turns the info is read buy the plug on the LHS .
No bar , no info gets sent .ERROR is shown , good idea but , not do-able .
Oh well at least it made me use my brain .
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Post  Reardo Sat 18 Aug 2012, 4:09 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:I havent taken mine out but its sounding like its more trouble than its worth.
If I was to make my Bike Standard again(Hell NO) I would still 100% leave out the secondaries. I like to control the throttle myself, Not the computer! tongue

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Post  2wheelsagain Sat 18 Aug 2012, 4:15 pm

Reardo wrote:
2wheelsagain wrote:I havent taken mine out but its sounding like its more trouble than its worth.
If I was to make my Bike Standard again(Hell NO) I would still 100% leave out the secondaries. I like to control the throttle myself, Not the computer! tongue

I was meaning removing the shaft was more trouble than it was worth. Wink

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Post  Reardo Sat 18 Aug 2012, 4:38 pm

2wheelsagain wrote:
Reardo wrote:
2wheelsagain wrote:I havent taken mine out but its sounding like its more trouble than its worth.
If I was to make my Bike Standard again(Hell NO) I would still 100% leave out the secondaries. I like to control the throttle myself, Not the computer! tongue

I was meaning removing the shaft was more trouble than it was worth. Wink
ooooooooooh U old blokes need to say what U mean. Laughing

One day I'll give a ride on a real Bandit cheers tongue lol!

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*Arrow race headers with Yoshimura TRS.
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Post  2wheelsagain Sat 18 Aug 2012, 7:38 pm

Reardo wrote:
2wheelsagain wrote:
Reardo wrote:
2wheelsagain wrote:I havent taken mine out but its sounding like its more trouble than its worth.
If I was to make my Bike Standard again(Hell NO) I would still 100% leave out the secondaries. I like to control the throttle myself, Not the computer! tongue

I was meaning removing the shaft was more trouble than it was worth. Wink
ooooooooooh U old blokes need to say what U mean. Laughing

One day I'll give a ride on a real Bandit cheers tongue lol!

It will still be over weight with dodgy brakes and suspension :!lol:

Don't be upset if I haul past with 11k on the tac with another gear to go Wink

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Post  gus Sat 18 Aug 2012, 7:44 pm

I agree ,removing the secondaries transformed a a boring ride to a yeeeharrrr .And cost zip .
Closely followed by 1 tooth less on the front sprocket.$20
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Post  geekay007 Sun 19 Aug 2012, 3:07 pm

gus wrote:Firstly, the pic is the end of the trottle bodys not the secondaryies ,my mistake .
The secondaries are run buy a motor in the CENTRE of the 4 intakes (black plastic thing ).When this turns the info is read buy the plug on the LHS .
No bar , no info gets sent .ERROR is shown , good idea but , not do-able .
Oh well at least it made me use my brain .

I was gonna say the same thing. I wouldn't bother removing the shaft, seems like a lot of things could go wrong.

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Post  Joflewbyu2 Mon 04 Oct 2021, 9:10 am

gus wrote:Firstly,  the pic is the end of the trottle bodys not the secondaryies ,my mistake .
The secondaries are run buy a motor in the CENTRE of the 4 intakes (black plastic thing ).When this turns the info is read buy the plug on the LHS .
No bar , no info gets sent .ERROR is shown , good idea but , not do-able .
Oh well at least it made me use my brain .
I removed the blades, rod, sensor and actuator servo motor. I used a Healtech STVE - 03 to avoid code 28 & code 29. Works great and I believe smoother more predictable throttle control without the turbulence the rod causes left in.

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Post  Chook Mon 04 Oct 2021, 4:22 pm

That's a big topic bump, 9 years, 1 month, great to see the search engine being used and working  cheers
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