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Post  Sloth_27 on Sun 27 Sep 2009, 11:35 am

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Can anyone with feedback about the different tyres they've run on their bikes post some info here. I dragged 6000km out of the originals but should've chucked them at 5000km. They seem to go good then all of the sudden start falling apart...

I put on a set of Michelin pilot road 2's (front and back) and they seem pretty good. Unfortunately I already got a puncture after only about 1000km and had to get it repaired. It was a big hole (part of a hacksaw blade went through the rear) and the repair job is good but it losses a few PSI each week.
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Re: Tyres: Feedback

Post  Kaupy1962 on Mon 05 Mar 2012, 9:03 am

Still going on Pr2 rear at 15,000 ks. 2mm to go before it hits the inside limit block. When I get a new one I'll cut this one in half to see exactly how much rubber is left and post a pic.
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Re: Tyres: Feedback

Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 05 Mar 2012, 1:13 pm

@Kaupy1962 wrote:Still going on Pr2 rear at 15,000 ks. 2mm to go before it hits the inside limit block. When I get a new one I'll cut this one in half to see exactly how much rubber is left and post a pic.

I think most of us have reported the last couple of mm goes pretty quick. I thought I had 4000km left but in reallity it was less than 10000km.

It will be good to see the rubber though.

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Post  Four40 on Fri 30 Mar 2012, 4:53 pm

Just replaced my Z8 front today, managed a reasonable 14775km out of the other Z8. New tyre is now 140k old and the strips are very thin Very Happy


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Post  potatomasher on Fri 30 Mar 2012, 8:02 pm

i had another pirelli angel put on the front last week. i must say these are a pretty good tyre - although the front wore out before the rear this time. its interesting but the steering is significantly lighter with a new tyre.

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Post  Kaupy1962 on Sat 31 Mar 2012, 5:38 pm

16,102k on rear Michelin Pr2. Almost time to get rid of it.
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Post  Ewok1958 on Sat 31 Mar 2012, 6:33 pm

@Kaupy1962 wrote:16,102k on rear Michelin Pr2. Almost time to get rid of it.

That's consistent with what I did. I left it on a bit longer but it was shot at the end.
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Importing tyres from USA

Post  BanditDave on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 7:06 am

I am presently running Michelin PR3's purchased from Jake Wilson (USA) and am very pleased with both the price and performance.

I was talking to a Harley rider recently who was stopped by police.

I suggested he may have been riding too slow and causing traffic congestion. Smile

He told me he had purchased some Harley branded tyres from USA and was almost booked (cautioned by police) for having illegal tyres on his bike.

The nice policeman explained to him that all tyres sold for Australian use have the lettering DOT on the sidewall along with tyre brand, size, country of origin etc.

His tyres did not have DOT on them.

My new PR3's also do not have DOT on them.

My old PR2 (still in the shed) purchased within Australia is DOT marked.

I find all of this fairly hard to believe, particularly as Australian conditions vary from snow covered roads to roads where the bitumen is going soft due to the heat.

Perhaps Australian tyres are manufactured to withstand the enormous potholes we have to endure, especially in Queensland. Sad

Has anybody leapt from there computer desk and run outside to check the markings on their tyres yet?



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Re: Tyres: Feedback

Post  madmax on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 7:56 am

Just get a paint marker and put a DOT on them Laughing

I doubt the tyres are different, well not USA to Australia anyway.. Its probably more likely there protecting our local retailers and us from dodgy imports from cheap OS regions

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Re: Tyres: Feedback

Post  Hammy on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 8:50 am

@Kaupy1962 wrote:16,102k on rear Michelin Pr2. Almost time to get rid of it.

Will you be trying the PR3 next Kaupy ?
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The plot thickens

Post  BanditDave on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 10:41 am

Contrary to my earlier statement re the lack of DOT markings on my tyres, I have found them.
The front tyre is marked on the left side only, the rear tyre on the right side only.

So what does it mean?

I 'googled' the question and came up with an unqualified answer from a "tin top" website.

There is no such thing as australian spec tyres, they all fall under the ADR23/00 which lists applicable regulations as acceptible for use on australian roads. The 3 standards i know of that are legal for use in the country is

e(3) - european
DOT - american
JIS - Japan.

A tyre with any of the above standards printed on the sidewall complys with the relevent law here and is legal for use on the road. Australia itself does not have its own code.


As my tyres have come from USA it makes sense that they would have DOT markings.

Maybe my Harley colleague had no markings on his tyres - we will never know Neutral


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Re: Tyres: Feedback

Post  madmax on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 10:48 am

@BanditDave wrote:Contrary to my earlier statement re the lack of DOT markings on my tyres, I have found them.
The front tyre is marked on the left side only, the rear tyre on the right side only.

So what does it mean?


It means only one side of your tyres is legal Laughing

Seriously though good find on the info. Good to know we can safely buy from OS as long as they are one of the 3 standards.

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Don't take my word for it!

Post  BanditDave on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 10:59 am

I 'googled' the question and came up with an unqualified answer from a "tin top" website.

I cannot vouch for its accuracy.

I do however consider there are a number of scare tactics around from Australian retailers discouraging us from buying overseas.

Let's be perfectly honest, my Michelin tyres came from a large retail outlet in USA. They are manufactured in Thailand.

Michelin produces tyres in France, Spain, Germany, the USA, the UK, Canada, Brazil, Thailand, Japan, Italy and several other countries.

I'm pretty sure they would not make a tyre that sells in the USA which is illegal in Australia.

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Post  potatomasher on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 2:25 pm

DOT means the US Department Of Transport

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Post  Kaupy1962 on Sun 01 Apr 2012, 4:53 pm

@ Hammy.
I would like to try the PR3. But looking at the tread, it's hard to not think that it wouldn't get the same mileage as the PR2. I reckon it would hang on a lot better but it just looks like a softer tyre with that tread pattern.
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Post  Thof on Tue 03 Apr 2012, 9:55 pm

Sign of the times for me, 19547 kms on originals, rear not quite at wear indicator, front stuffed, these tyres are the one named after my mother, battle axe, or bt021 for others... was an ok pair of hoops, now to see how pr3s go...(scoot is the FA). Amazing the riding type and licorice wear of others!
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Post  Bhoffo on Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:30 pm

I've got about 14000 on my Pr3's now... hope to get another 6000 out of them... I managed about the same on the PR2's... Smile

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Post  Kaupy1962 on Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:15 pm

Bridgestone bt020 were the best Thof. But they stopped making them. They called them bricks coz they were so hard. 25,000k out of the rear on my Honda.
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Post  Thof on Thu 05 Apr 2012, 9:06 pm

Strewth Kaupy, 25 k, gr8 effort, but how did they go in the cold weather and wet? I found the 021's quite good in warm weather, nervous in the cold / wet (not that I do to much wet wether riding now, im a soft cock with soft hands to match...)
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Post  Kaupy1962 on Fri 06 Apr 2012, 10:16 am

Good in the cold, and in the wet but i think it had more to do with the weight of the bike. I only ever ran Dunlop Arrowmax on the front which stuck to the road like shit to blanket But still had the front drifting before the back. Will post a pick of what's left of the tyre.
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Post  Kaupy1962 on Fri 06 Apr 2012, 3:27 pm

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Bridgestone Battlax 020 on my Honda 900 after 25,000k
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Post  Ironman on Mon 09 Apr 2012, 6:07 pm

Has anyone bought tyres from Jake Wilson in the US? Looking at PR2's for under $340 landed for the pair.
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Post  xpalan on Mon 09 Apr 2012, 6:24 pm

Ordered a pair of Bridgestone battlax 023's from jake wilson- landed to my door was $320 with no problems , arrived inside a week
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Post  Re-Cycled on Mon 09 Apr 2012, 8:55 pm

I got great service from JakeWilson but now there are locals competeing, might be worth checking

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Kellys-Rubber-Nationwide?_trksid=p4340.l2563

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And now for something completely different

Post  barry_mcki on Mon 09 Apr 2012, 10:35 pm

Having gone through a new PR2 in about 3000 kms I need to rethink my strategy on front tires. With the geometry of the sidecar, there is very little verticle movement, so having a nice round front tire is pretty useless. I am looking at getting a custom front wheel made that will take normal cager tires but that is a little ways off, mind you if I had to put the miles on the bike that I do with the car, the $2000 for the wheel would pay for itself in 12 months.


Not sure if I'll be going this wide, but just to give you an idea of what I mean by a square profile.

A couple of the hack sites recommend a rear tire fitted to the front (I'm assuming they mean tire and not the whole wheel ?). As you know ours is a 3 1/2" 17", that limits the selection a fair bit. BTW "they" also do not recommend fitting a car tire on the skinner front MC wheel due to difference between the MC and cager's beads, also 17" in the MC world is not the same in the car world (?) - doesn't seem to be an issue for the 5 1/2" rear wheel though.

I can accomodate an increase in wheel height by approx 40mm(20mm more in sidewall that is) as my front guard is actually fitted to the hoop that goes across the top of the wheel not the front suspension, i.e. can go up to 640 to 645mm dia:



So my question for those ex-tire jocks, is a Metzler Tourance 150/70-17 going to meet my requirements to fit the standard 3 1/2" wheel, is there something out there that has with more square profile?



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Post  Boatz on Tue 10 Apr 2012, 7:07 pm

Try sending Metzler an email. I have done in the past and got a quick reply .

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