Bandit feels like it is surging?
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Bandit feels like it is surging?
Hi there, I purchased a 2008 1250 Bandit-S about six weeks ago and love it!!!! But have noticed that the bike feels like it is surging. And if you slowly rev the bike whilst not moving the tacho needle wavers. I have done the throttle position sensor adjustment, as well as ballanced the throttle bodies as described in the forum.
The info you all have is fantastic and has been great, so if anyone has info that could help it would be much appreciated. Thanks Michael
The info you all have is fantastic and has been great, so if anyone has info that could help it would be much appreciated. Thanks Michael

Michael- Posts: 7
Join date: 2010-10-26
Age: 40
Location: Dayboro QLD
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
This will open can of worms............................
I'll stay silent however
No bugger it I cant keep quiet!
How many K's? What mods? Cold/hot? What fuel? Noticed it under load? What PM?
I'll stay silent however
No bugger it I cant keep quiet!
How many K's? What mods? Cold/hot? What fuel? Noticed it under load? What PM?
Last edited by 2wheelsagain on Mon 08 Nov 2010, 10:23 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Extra info)

2wheelsagain- Posts: 3026
Join date: 2009-08-26
Age: 47
Location: Sale Vic

Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
About 7000km , no mods, hot or cold, BP ultima premium, no it's fine under load it is noticable when cruising revs. Sorry what is PM?

Michael- Posts: 7
Join date: 2010-10-26
Age: 40
Location: Dayboro QLD
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
While you are not moving and reving it my bandit doesnt rev smooth eather and the tacho does move around slighty. i put that down to the o2 sensor adjusting the ratio of fuel/air.
while riding tho
if you have down both the tps and balance correctly i would be looking at a clogged fuel filter or clogged air filter but it still has me a bit puzzled that its fine once you accelerate
see what the rest have to say
Holdenman
while riding tho
if you have down both the tps and balance correctly i would be looking at a clogged fuel filter or clogged air filter but it still has me a bit puzzled that its fine once you accelerate
see what the rest have to say
Holdenman

holdenman- Posts: 410
Join date: 2010-07-20
Age: 25
Location: Gympie Qld
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
There are a few reasons the bandit will do what you describe
The most probable in my mind is something that does not effect all bandits, but it does effect some and hence the can of worms thing 2WA has mentioned. There are some that say it is one thing, and others that say it is something else.
I have personally seen it on 3 bikes so far and from my experience of those bikes the getto fix is free and easy and works without causing other problems.
To see if what has caused your bike to do what you describe is like what I have seen, disconnect the GPS and go for a ride to replicate the situation.
This isn't the solution, just the "see if it is" bit.
It comes with a warning tho. Your bike will think it is in 6th gear AT ALL TIMES regardless of physical gear selected, including neutral so if your stand switch is touchy or you put the stand down, the engine will stop.
You must take care when releasing the clutch lever if you think you are in neutral as NO neutral (green) light will illuminate.
Let us know how you go and if it's not the problem we can further diagnose and help out.
The most probable in my mind is something that does not effect all bandits, but it does effect some and hence the can of worms thing 2WA has mentioned. There are some that say it is one thing, and others that say it is something else.
I have personally seen it on 3 bikes so far and from my experience of those bikes the getto fix is free and easy and works without causing other problems.
To see if what has caused your bike to do what you describe is like what I have seen, disconnect the GPS and go for a ride to replicate the situation.
This isn't the solution, just the "see if it is" bit.
It comes with a warning tho. Your bike will think it is in 6th gear AT ALL TIMES regardless of physical gear selected, including neutral so if your stand switch is touchy or you put the stand down, the engine will stop.
You must take care when releasing the clutch lever if you think you are in neutral as NO neutral (green) light will illuminate.
Let us know how you go and if it's not the problem we can further diagnose and help out.
dhula- Posts: 990
Join date: 2009-09-03
Location: Warnbro
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Thank you for your help so far. dhula, where do I find the GPS to disconnect?

Michael- Posts: 7
Join date: 2010-10-26
Age: 40
Location: Dayboro QLD
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
2wheelsagain wrote:This will open can of worms............................
I'll stay silent however![]()
No bugger it I cant keep quiet!
How many K's? What mods? Cold/hot? What fuel? Noticed it under load? What PM?
Where did my R go? RPM
To add to the can of worms run 91 fuel but good quality 91 (Mobil, PB, Caltex, Shell) and the occasional tank of 98 to clean the system.

2wheelsagain- Posts: 3026
Join date: 2009-08-26
Age: 47
Location: Sale Vic

Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Between 2500 to 3500rpm. Thanks.

Michael- Posts: 7
Join date: 2010-10-26
Age: 40
Location: Dayboro QLD
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Michael wrote:Between 2500 to 3500rpm. Thanks.
I've found mine does this slightly below 3000 rpm so I just ride it above 3000 rpm. Problem fixed

whitey1- Posts: 443
Join date: 2009-10-30
Age: 42
Location: Kununurra WA previously Albany WA
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Mine runs brilliantly , never had a problem it's fantastically smooth and responsive. It's not necessary to thank me for the help

Saikhan- Posts: 765
Join date: 2010-01-19
Age: 46
Location: Gladstone Qld.
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Saikhan wrote:Mine runs brilliantly , never had a problem it's fantastically smooth and responsive. It's not necessary to thank me for the help![]()

Reardo- Posts: 1713
Join date: 2010-02-06
Age: 32
Location: BROKEN HILL

Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Reardo wrote:Saikhan wrote:Mine runs brilliantly , never had a problem it's fantastically smooth and responsive. It's not necessary to thank me for the help![]()
20,500km here and happy as a pig in sh!t
Can I be a trouble maker too

2wheelsagain- Posts: 3026
Join date: 2009-08-26
Age: 47
Location: Sale Vic

Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
2wheelsagain wrote:Reardo wrote:Saikhan wrote:Mine runs brilliantly , never had a problem it's fantastically smooth and responsive. It's not necessary to thank me for the help![]()
20,500km here and happy as a pig in sh!t
Can I be a trouble maker too![]()
NO. Sorry mate, your just to nice

Reardo- Posts: 1713
Join date: 2010-02-06
Age: 32
Location: BROKEN HILL

Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
I have taken the side cover off on the gear selector side, and followed the wires that run off the large sensor where the shaft goes into the box and disconnected the white triangular plug up near the fuse box near the battery. Is this the correct one to disconnect the gear position sensor???

Michael- Posts: 7
Join date: 2010-10-26
Age: 40
Location: Dayboro QLD
Re: Bandit feels like it is surging?
Yep, thats the one the atre piggy backs onto.

Saikhan- Posts: 765
Join date: 2010-01-19
Age: 46
Location: Gladstone Qld.
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