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Post  rodent4 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 5:47 pm

Hello gents, as the header says I'm looking to buy some Arrow(71374MI) collectors and have a question for you guys who have fitted them, and guys with an earlier bikes than mine.

Everywhere I see these pipes advertised it says they're to suit up to '09, they should also fit '10 as they have the same system. 

I have a '12, Suzuki parts books show that '09-'10 are a different to '11-'12, if there are any differences do any of you guys know what they are?

Has anyone fitted them to a '11 or '12, and was there any dramas?


I have read all related threads about these pipes on the forum but didn't find any relevant info.

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Post  paul on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm

Damned if I know ............I thought they would be the same . A quick search of other systems also indicate they are the same  Question

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Re: Looking to buy some Arrow collectors

Post  rodent4 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 6:36 pm

Stuffed if I know also  confused

Suzuki Parts catalogue lists,

14100-18H11 for '09-10 

and 1400-18H13 for '11-12

confused

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Post  paul on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 6:43 pm

Just found this .............

Shouldn't be a problem , the 13 just replaces the earlier numbers so they should still fit ok


https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/suzuki-genuine-parts/1410018h13-exhaust.aspx

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Post  rodent4 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 6:55 pm

Thanks bro, much appreciated  Very Happy  I'm usually not to bad at searching shit out on the interwebs, that item eluded me.

Missus has green lighted me to get the pipes and a PC, I already have an Akra can and Yoshi sticks fitted.

The pipes, Pc and a tune should give me a bit more go  Cool

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Post  rodent4 on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 7:50 pm

Just bought them, $720au Smile

Now just have to organise someone to fit a PC and tune the sucker after the pipes arrive  Cool

Anyone have detailed links to butterfly removal and air box butcher?

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Post  paul on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:14 pm

Just type butterfly removal , secondaries , or devils work into the search box by the header at the top of the page
or this one is quite good 

http://nswbandits.forumotion.net/t1771-secondaries-butterfly-s?highlight=secondaries

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Post  madmax on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:22 pm

If I recall correctly Arrow revised the design of the headers so they would fit the FA without interfering with the fairings.
Later kit might fit all models where as the older one wont?

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Post  Dekenai on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 7:02 am

My wife's cousin has a L4S (2014 S model) and the Arrows headers went on no problem.
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Post  rodent4 on Tue 07 Feb 2017, 4:59 pm

@Dekenai wrote:My wife's cousin has a L4S (2014 S model) and the Arrows headers went on no problem.


Thanks  Very Happy


Just checked my letterbox, they're not here yet Sad

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Post  rodent4 on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 6:41 pm

Cool

I'm into cars and am used to buying gear and re-engineering it to fit.......not this time, the Arrow pipes fit was perfect  Cool

It's gotta be one of the easiest "part" installs I've done for a long time  Cool

Roughly around an hour to remove the old pipe and fit the Arrow  Cool






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Post  barry_mcki on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 7:25 pm

Once you lay everything out they do go together quite easily.  I think MM was right about the later models have a change to make sure they didn't foul the lower fairings, I had to cut a small section out of my right hand fairing as the outside pipe was touching.  These were factory original fairings for the K7 model that I bought from the UK:



Just looking at your top picture above, it appears to me that the flange bracket might be upside down on your middle pipes or the springs are not seated in the correct holes.  On mine all the springs are pretty much in line with the flow of the pipes, where as on yours they have a distinct upwards slant to them:



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Post  reddog on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 9:13 am

They are very well made. So what's your thoughts on the bike since installation?
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Post  rodent4 on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:23 pm

@barry_mcki wrote:Once you lay everything out they do go together quite easily.  I think MM was right about the later models have a change to make sure they didn't foul the lower fairings, I had to cut a small section out of my right hand fairing as the outside pipe was touching.  These were factory original fairings for the K7 model that I bought from the UK:

 

Just looking at your top picture above, it appears to me that the flange bracket might be upside down on your middle pipes or the springs are not seated in the correct holes.  On mine all the springs are pretty much in line with the flow of the pipes, where as on yours they have a distinct upwards slant to them:




^^^^^^^Thank you Barry, changed them out  Cool

@reddog wrote:They are very well made. So what's your thoughts on the bike since installation?

I haven't ridden it further than around the block, so it's hard to tell. I just checked the letterbox after 2 beers and my plug(for 02 sensor removal) has turned up, I don't ride after beers.

If the weather is nice I'll ride it to work tomorrow and check back in with details  Smile

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Post  reddog on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 8:05 pm

The weight reduction is worth it... The note chrispens up too
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Post  rodent4 on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 6:00 pm

Rode the sucker to work today, not far enough to give any real feedback but I did notice a couple of things.

It's mildly louder but sounds good,
It definitely has more power, how much I won't know till I get it tuned,
I have always had a vibration in the right bar that would numb my fingers slightly after 30kms, and a slight vibration through the seat....now they're gone  scratch  Can an Exhaust actually cause a vibration?

I have Yoshi cams in the bike and have never really heard them "lump"......... until now  Very Happy   Nothing major but it does sound cool, when I get it tuned it'll probably disappear Sad

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Post  rodent4 on Sun 19 Feb 2017, 7:10 pm

Tune Tuesday,Wednesday, I'll chime back in with figures regardless of how good or bad. 

No ad-on box, just going to try and get a tune in it with what Suzuki supplied from the factory  Very Happy

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Post  rodent4 on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 5:23 pm

Picked it up, tune must have been reasonable before it went there(was a bit lean under 3k apparently)

When it got there: 116.94hp, 108.26tq

After tune: 117.99hp, 112.56tq

Although there wasn't much in it, I'd rather have it looked at after the Collector pipe went on and the 02 sensor and the cat departed.

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Post  Dekenai on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 7:11 am

Just one other thing...the collectors are the first thing to touch down on right handers,
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Post  rodent4 on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 4:42 pm

@reddog wrote:They are very well made. So what's your thoughts on the bike since installation?

I still haven't done a great deal of miles on it apart from commuting, feels better the whole way through the range, no flat spots, and it has definitely gotten rid of the vibe that I used to have in my right bar Cool


@Dekenai wrote:Just one other thing...the collectors are the first thing to touch down on right handers,

Had a couple of nice right and left handers on the way home yesterday, and didn't have any issues confused 

I get my scooter over enough that it's right on the edge of the tread of the Pilot 4's, maybe it's a different version of collector?

When I go on a longer ride I'll check it out Smile

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Post  NZspokes on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 8:45 pm

Have you done the airbox lid removal etc?

Ive got the same headers on my 10FA, no touch downs as the suspension is sorted.
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Post  rodent4 on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 5:41 pm

@NZspokes wrote:Have you done the airbox lid removal etc?

 
Not at this stage, I may look at that and pair removal setup and a Power commander(or an alternative) down the track. 

I'm hoping my car will be home soon after being at the painters for 9 months.......that'll keep me poor for 12 months or so  Crying or Very sad

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Post  barry_mcki on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 8:58 pm

If you're worried about cutting up the air box lid, new ones are only about $20 at the Suzuki dealers, or they were when I bought a spare a couple of years ago.

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Post  rodent4 on Wed 01 Mar 2017, 5:38 pm

@barry_mcki wrote:If you're worried about cutting up the air box lid, new ones are only about $20 at the Suzuki dealers, or they were when I bought a spare a couple of years ago.

I'm not to stressed about cutting one up as I have a complete new airbox, not looking to head that direction just yet Smile

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