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Post  2wheelsagain on Wed 18 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm

Seeing as I'll be in a box before we get high speed internet I'm wondering what experience people have with NBN Satellite?

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Re: NBN Satellite

Post  paul on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 12:21 am

Not satelite , but my son is with Nu Skope wireless broadband ( adelaide based but there must be similar in Vic ) . He gets good speed & reliability , but I believe it is also very dependent on how far from their towers you aim your antena at you are .I was under the impression Satellite was quite expensive ................

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Post  barry_mcki on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 12:39 am

My daughter had the old satellite service, it was very slow just doing email, movie streaming was just a pipe dream.  Cost was no greater than a typical ADSL due to some rule that states you get heavily subsidised if you don't have access to normal copper (or glass) carrier line internet delivery.

This is an extract from NBN about the new Sky Muster service:

The wholesale speed options that will be available to internet service providers via the new satellite service are 12Mbps download with a 1Mbps upload, or 25Mbps download with a 5Mbps upload. The 25Mbps (wholesale) download option is designed to revolutionise fast broadband for regional and remote Australia.  NBN Satellite info


Note that this is the speed being offered to the ISP's, who then need to redistribute this chunk across all their subscribers.  Now do you think you are going to get the full 12 (or 25)Mbps ? I cannot see that happening, more than likely speed will be less than 0.1 Mbps, hope I'm totally wrong on that.

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Post  Ewok1958 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:14 am

We were upgraded to NBN satellite last month Chris. NBN Co was the installer and Bordernet is our service provider. I am very disappointed with it. It is only about 10 - 20% faster than my old pre-NBN satellite connection and I'd say not as fast as the ADSL2 connection we had in the ACT. For example, if I hit play on any embedded video, more than 74% of the time the video will halt in the middle of playng until the download catches up. This invariably happens multiple times.  On some short, low quality video, it may play through without stopping. For emails & banking, etc it is fine, but not fast. You're more than welcome to stay o/night and try it for yourself, ie try before you buy.
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Post  paul on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 10:10 am

@Ewok1958 wrote:We were upgraded to NBN satellite last month Chris. NBN Co was the installer and Bordernet is our service provider. I am very disappointed with it. It is only about 10 - 20% faster than my old pre-NBN satellite connection and I'd say not as fast as the ADSL2 connection we had in the ACT. For example, if I hit play on any embedded video, more than 74% of the time the video will halt in the middle of playng until the download catches up. This invariably happens multiple times.  On some short, low quality video, it may play through without stopping. For emails & banking, etc it is fine, but not fast. You're more than welcome to stay o/night and try it for yourself, ie try before you buy.
Out of curiosity ,have you run the Ookla speedtest Dave ? It would be interesting to see what speeds you are getting for 2WA to compare .

http://www.speedtest.net/

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Post  Ewok1958 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 3:07 pm

Thanks Paul. Here is the result:

Ping: 678ms
Download: 14.64 Mbps
Upload: 3.89 Mbps

How does that compare?
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Post  Ewok1958 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 3:23 pm

20 minutes later:

Ping: 677ms
Download: 9.99 Mbps
Upload: 1.42 Mbps


Hell of a difference.
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Re: NBN Satellite

Post  madmax on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:26 pm

ADSL2 only, NBN is still a few years away.

With VPN turned on
Ping 193ms
Down 2.78 Mbps
Up 0.31 Mbps

With VPN turned off but using same server
Ping 175ms
Down 6.86 Mbps
Up 0.41 Mbps

With VPN turned off using a local server
Ping 19ms
Down 8.60 Mbps
Up 0.56 Mbps

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Post  paul on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 6:27 pm

We are the last house on our exchanges line & just past where the drop off point is, so adsl2 for me at the moment is ping 23ms .down 2.29 mps ............up 27mps ............( telstra server )which is about as good as it gets . Coincidentally , we got a letter yesterday saying NBN is about to be rolled out in my area so  cheers we might then get some of those speeds I can only dream about at the moment.

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Post  Chook on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:50 pm

We're on Telstra Cable, my PC is a out of date dinosaur, I just checked my speeds on a different site


Download Speed: 36148 kbps (4518.5 KB/sec transfer rate) = 36.146 mb
Upload Speed: 1087 kbps (135.9 KB/sec transfer rate) = 1.08 mb
Latency: 10 ms
Jitter: 4 ms
Packet Loss: -1%
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Post  Chook on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:59 pm

@Chook wrote:We're on Telstra Cable, my PC is a out of date dinosaur, I just checked my speeds on a different site


Download Speed: 36148 kbps (4518.5 KB/sec transfer rate) = 36.146 mb
Upload Speed: 1087 kbps (135.9 KB/sec transfer rate) = 1.08 mb
Latency: 10 ms
Jitter: 4 ms
Packet Loss: -1%
1/19/2017, 7:18:38 PM

My son's u beaut PC

35.08 mbps download
1.02 mbps upload
9 ms latency
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Post  reddog on Fri 20 Jan 2017, 9:18 am

https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/nbn/satellite/lts.php

We had NBN fttn turned on less than 2 months ago. I went with Telstra on a 25mb plan. I consistently get 25mb down and 5.5 up. I haven't heard from anyone near us about the quality of the sky mesh NBN services. I'll ask around and get back to you.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Fri 20 Jan 2017, 10:47 am

Thanks all. The Sat is probably not a viable option even cost v data let alone retail speed.
We're less than 1500m from the local exchange and can stream HD content on Bigpond without buffering (usually). Its the upload speed that really bugs me on ADSL2.

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Post  reddog on Fri 20 Jan 2017, 7:40 pm

If you are on adsl 2 you aren't going to gain anything other than a larger monthly bill.  I went from dialup to nbn... huge difference
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Post  BanditDave on Sat 21 Jan 2017, 6:48 am

If you have a (friendly??) neighbour maybe several kilometres away who is getting far better results than you, you might consider a point to point link.

This can be as simple as a couple of strange looking antennas or small parabolic dishes.

Check out Ubiquiti.   http://www.ubiquitishop.com.au/ 

For ~$200 you can set up a point to point link and Ubiquiti claim up to 30Km range but this is very much terrain dependent and weather dependent (rain attenuation must be considered)

Generally, it needs to be line of sight between the two properties but this can also be achieved with an intermediary point such as on top of a hill where your water tank sits.

The strategy to consider is to establish a digital link between the two properties and to share the cost of a premium service with your neighbour (only a modem at one end)

You can probably afford to go upmarket and buy a service with the highest speed and unlimited downloads.

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