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Post  Ironman on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:03 pm

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just a quick one. on the penrite website they mention hpr30 is ok for use in motorcycle engines with wet clutches but nothing is on the bottle at all with regards to that.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.

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Post  meggens85 on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 2:31 pm

@Ironman wrote:Nope. Hpr gas10
So u reckon the hpr gas 10 is good for the bikes 
It actually states on the bottle that it has no friction modifyers in it
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Post  Ironman on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 5:06 pm

It even has a little picture of a bike on the bottle! I use it in my dl1000 and my b1200 road bike. Hpr30 in my track bike.
Until something comes along to change my way of thinking or finding out its been old recycled makkie d's chippy fat the whole time ill keep on using it.
Btw i saw you can buy 4lt of motul 5100 10w50 for $70. Or you can buy 5lt of gas10 for $33.74 on special. Keep on using the gas10 enough times you will have enough left over in each bottle to get another change for free! Woooo hoooooo!!!
Sorry... i got excited.

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Post  meggens85 on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 5:55 pm

Nice one thanks ironman 
Been using stuff from the local bike shop and costs me about $65 for 3.8 lt (not even an even 4lt ) and can get hpr gas 10 from super shit for about $40 for 5lt might have to give it a go i think
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Post  Ironman on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 10:57 pm

I like it, bike does too. But i do get indigestion from it sometimes. Laughing

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Post  meggens85 on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 4:41 am

You need to water it down with a bit of scotch ironman cures the indigestion issues
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Post  Ironman on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 4:50 am

Ill try that. Good news is i dont have to grunt now each time i haul myself out of a chair.

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Post  Jimmy the Boy on Mon 24 Apr 2017, 8:26 am

I have been using Penrite HPR GAS 10 in all my bikes for years. Ducati monster, Bandit1200S, 2x TL1000s and I will be using it in the DL1000. Bikes, clutches and gearboxes have run seamlessly on it. It's the shit! IMHO Smile
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Post  dessybarber on Mon 01 May 2017, 8:10 am

ok ran the hpr 30 for the 5000k went well with no issues ... but I will take ironmans advise and run the gas 10 this change $35 for 5 ltr at repco yesterday with 30% disc for racq members. That's about half price compared to the bike shop oil [ the tightarse is strong in this one]

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Post  meggens85 on Mon 01 May 2017, 11:02 pm

Gave my bike a gut full of the hpr10 gas on the weekend seems to be running nice and smooth so far a little quieter gear changes a smooth as even seems to start a little easier 
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Re: penrite hpr30

Post  dhula on Tue 09 May 2017, 4:20 pm

Used 20w-50 (not Penrite tho) in the Bandit and GSX650F year round when we had them.
Also used in the Vee and Wee's we had (then chopped and changed oil a few times to end up using HPR Gas 10 like other have)
Some of the colder temps got down to Oh or slightly lower.
Had no probs

Used the same stuff (the 20w-50) in a 3.0 4cyl Deso engine for 170k-ish kms right down to -13 or so at times. No probs in that one either.

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Post  paul on Tue 09 May 2017, 6:38 pm

@dhula wrote:Used 20w-50 (not Penrite tho) in the Bandit and GSX650F year round when we had them.
Also used in the Vee and Wee's we had (then chopped and changed oil a few times to end up using HPR Gas 10 like other have)
Some of the colder temps got down to Oh or slightly lower.
Had no probs

Used the same stuff (the 20w-50) in a 3.0 4cyl Deso engine for 170k-ish kms right down to -13 or so at times. No probs in that one either.
Good to hear from you dhula how have you been ?

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Re: penrite hpr30

Post  GDUB on Wed 10 May 2017, 12:26 pm

@paul wrote:I might be missing something here, but why not just use motorcycle oil designed for motorcycles .................a little dearer sometimes depending on the oil , but the cost spread over mileage ratio would be negligible. Question

Because usually the only thing differentiating it from a normal engine oil is the part on the label where it says MOTORCYCLE and the price.  oils have a viscosity rating and a grade.  if they are correct the oil is ok to use.  Oils labelled as motorcycle oils are nothing but a marketing rip off

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Re: penrite hpr30

Post  GDUB on Wed 10 May 2017, 12:28 pm

@meggens85 wrote:
@Ironman wrote:Nope. Hpr gas10
So u reckon the hpr gas 10 is good for the bikes 
It actually states on the bottle that it has no friction modifyers in it


Friction modifiers haven't been in engine oils for years.  that was an 80's thing.

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Re: penrite hpr30

Post  Chook on Wed 10 May 2017, 1:11 pm

@GDUB wrote:
@meggens85 wrote:
@Ironman wrote:Nope. Hpr gas10
So u reckon the hpr gas 10 is good for the bikes 
It actually states on the bottle that it has no friction modifyers in it


Friction modifiers haven't been in engine oils for years.  that was an 80's thing.

Are you sure about that?  Or is it just that they aren't advertised on the packaging as a "sales gimmick" now?

This is from the few I searched in the past 1/2 hr (home with the man flu and bored shitless Wink  )

Shell's web site still has this in it's FAQ's "Friction modifiers reduce the drag between moving parts to increase fuel economy."

Castrol don't mention "Friction Modifiers" but do mention additives that change the molecular structure to reduce friction in Castrol Edge , same, same, different terminology

Mobil has "Proprietary Multi-Layer Anti-Wear Technology"

Penrite's tech bulletin still mentions "Friction Modifiers", looks like they've decided to keep it simple instead of baffling everyone with new fancy gimmicky sales pitches  

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/tech_pdfs/Oil%20Additives%20-%20Nov%202014.pdf

This article was written in May 2000
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ls.3010120305/abstract
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Post  dhula on Wed 10 May 2017, 9:07 pm

@paul wrote:Good to hear from you dhula how have you been ?
I'm doing pretty dam well if I do say so myself :-)
Not riding anymore unfortunatly :-( but it's a personal choice driven by medical/physical issues.
Doing more 4wding and camping type stuff now-a-days which suits us a bit better given what we can/can't or  shouldn't be doing.

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Post  Ironman on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 3:40 pm

I remember friction modified oil was blamed years ago for glazed bores causing oil burning issues.

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