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Post  Ironman on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:03 pm

just a quick one. on the penrite website they mention hpr30 is ok for use in motorcycle engines with wet clutches but nothing is on the bottle at all with regards to that.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.

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Post  Ironman on Fri 16 Sep 2016, 5:04 pm

further to my quest for the best oil for my application, i found out some intesesting things about the SACS.
Idea derived from WWII radial engines with regards to cooling the undersides of the pistons with copious amounts of oil to cool them better than just air cooling fins.
Well there you go.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 9:45 am

@Ironman wrote:further to my quest for the best oil for my application, i found out some intesesting things about the SACS.
Idea derived from WWII radial engines with regards to cooling the undersides of the pistons with copious amounts of oil to cool them better than just air cooling fins.
Well there you go.
My RF900R and early GSXR's had this too.

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Post  Dekenai on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 7:43 am

@Ironman wrote:just a quick one. on the penrite website they mention hpr30 is ok for use in motorcycle engines with wet clutches but nothing is on the bottle at all with regards to that.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.



Zinc should not effect the MA rating...Penrite has a bunch of MA oils that are 'Full Zinc'.

It does however impact the more recent SAE Car standards (SM etc.) where manufacturers have been obliged to seriously reduce Zinc levels because it damages Cats.

Zinc really good for reducing wear, particularly in highly loaded components like valve gear.

My 2 cents...I'm using 'full zinc' oil.
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Post  dessybarber on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 4:58 pm

just wondering if many people run hpr30 I normally in rockoil guardian but would like an alternative as supply sometimes gets a bit difficult cheers des

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Post  reddog on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 8:33 pm

Anyone running this in the 1250? I've been using belray in the past
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Post  paul on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 9:09 pm

Nope .......Ipone.

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Post  barry_mcki on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 9:23 pm

For my 1250 I'm using Penrite Full Synthetic 10W-40 (Full Zinc) for a couple of years now.  As I have Arrows headers and a Yoshi can and link pipe, this issue about zinc being no good for catalytic convertors isn't a problem for me.

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Post  dessybarber on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 9:09 am

mine is a 2006 1200 oiler

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Post  dessybarber on Sun 19 Feb 2017, 8:25 pm

ok gave the old girl a new filter and a gutfull of hpr30 first thing I noticed was the engine ran noticibly quieter. I will report back on the outcome as to how I rate it cheers des

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Post  dessybarber on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 11:01 am

first week 320k engine nice and quiet gearchanges nice and snicky so far so good

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Post  meggens85 on Fri 17 Mar 2017, 12:26 pm

@dessybarber wrote:ok gave the old girl a new filter and a gutfull of hpr30 first thing I noticed was the engine ran noticibly quieter. I will report back on the outcome as to how I rate it cheers des
Just wondering how the hpr30 is going in the beast 
I have reservations as hpr30 has a higher viscosity than the recomended from suzuki
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Post  dessybarber on Fri 17 Mar 2017, 9:41 pm

just knocked up 1000k  today seems fine so far

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Post  Ironman on Sun 19 Mar 2017, 6:50 pm

i find no issues at all running hpr30 year round when ambient temps dictate t shirt and jeans or less.
i would be hesitant using 30 in say katoomba in the dead of winter with your bike stored in an outside tin shed.
starting it with oil temperature of zero could cause a problem.

try putting a sample of hpr 30 in the freezer at minus 18 and watch how thick it goes. do the same for a 10w oil.

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Post  dessybarber on Mon 20 Mar 2017, 8:29 am

good point  lucky  the temperature in Townsville is lucky to get below 20 deg on a winters day.. but if I head to the cold country I will follow your advise

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Post  meggens85 on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:00 pm

Yeah i live down south in geelong it might get a bit cold down here in winter to run hpr30 
But do u think hpr10 or 20 would be ok for bikes
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Post  Ironman on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:45 pm

Nope. Hpr gas10

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Post  paul on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:48 pm

I might be missing something here, but why not just use motorcycle oil designed for motorcycles .................a little dearer sometimes depending on the oil , but the cost spread over mileage ratio would be negligible. Question

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Post  Ironman on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:50 pm

Cost per litre.

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Post  paul on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:55 pm

Yes , but an equivalent good quality mineral oil ( as is the penrite ) is not much different in cost and is motorcycle specific without added zinc..............

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Post  Ironman on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 10:58 pm

I can run the one oil in all my engines. Buy 20lt or more and you pay less per litre.
But hey its your money.

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Post  paul on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 11:03 pm

Maybe I'm just old fashioned ..............I have always believed that if it has a picture of a bike on it, it is the right stuff to use ..............I see your point though .

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Post  Ironman on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 11:10 pm

Ever driven a mini matic?
They got the engine diff and an auto box to run quite well on a shared sump full of plain engine oil.
I just asked the question and dug around in the pdf after specifications and associated properties. Got the viscosity i wanted all meeting suzuki and toyota spec and a warm fuzzy feeling from being a tight arse.

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Post  paul on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 11:14 pm

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Post  Ironman on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 11:16 pm

Ignore the brand in the background of my avatar. Laughing

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