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penrite hpr30
just a quick one. on the penrite website they mention hpr30 is ok for use in motorcycle engines with wet clutches but nothing is on the bottle at all with regards to that.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.
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further to my quest for the best oil for my application, i found out some intesesting things about the SACS.
Idea derived from WWII radial engines with regards to cooling the undersides of the pistons with copious amounts of oil to cool them better than just air cooling fins.
Well there you go.
Idea derived from WWII radial engines with regards to cooling the undersides of the pistons with copious amounts of oil to cool them better than just air cooling fins.
Well there you go.
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My RF900R and early GSXR's had this too.Ironman wrote:further to my quest for the best oil for my application, i found out some intesesting things about the SACS.
Idea derived from WWII radial engines with regards to cooling the undersides of the pistons with copious amounts of oil to cool them better than just air cooling fins.
Well there you go.
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Re: penrite hpr30
Ironman wrote:just a quick one. on the penrite website they mention hpr30 is ok for use in motorcycle engines with wet clutches but nothing is on the bottle at all with regards to that.
I spoke to their lubes guys and they said it is ok to use but its not jaso ma certified because of the amount of zinc in the oil apparently as I recall. I could be wrong. anyways I thought that a heavy 60 weight oil might help my 1200 witha bit of a hot engine noise and clutch shudder just before the lever is fully released.
I changed the filter and filled with hpr30. well im impressed. its smoother, clutch shudder is gone and quieter.
I was using hpr gas 10. so the hpr30 gets my approval.
Zinc should not effect the MA rating...Penrite has a bunch of MA oils that are 'Full Zinc'.
It does however impact the more recent SAE Car standards (SM etc.) where manufacturers have been obliged to seriously reduce Zinc levels because it damages Cats.
Zinc really good for reducing wear, particularly in highly loaded components like valve gear.
My 2 cents...I'm using 'full zinc' oil.
Dekenai- Posts : 797
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Re: penrite hpr30
just wondering if many people run hpr30 I normally in rockoil guardian but would like an alternative as supply sometimes gets a bit difficult cheers des
dessybarber- Posts : 23
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Anyone running this in the 1250? I've been using belray in the past
reddog- Posts : 2523
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Nope .......Ipone.
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For my 1250 I'm using Penrite Full Synthetic 10W-40 (Full Zinc) for a couple of years now. As I have Arrows headers and a Yoshi can and link pipe, this issue about zinc being no good for catalytic convertors isn't a problem for me.
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ok gave the old girl a new filter and a gutfull of hpr30 first thing I noticed was the engine ran noticibly quieter. I will report back on the outcome as to how I rate it cheers des
dessybarber- Posts : 23
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first week 320k engine nice and quiet gearchanges nice and snicky so far so good
dessybarber- Posts : 23
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Just wondering how the hpr30 is going in the beastdessybarber wrote:ok gave the old girl a new filter and a gutfull of hpr30 first thing I noticed was the engine ran noticibly quieter. I will report back on the outcome as to how I rate it cheers des
I have reservations as hpr30 has a higher viscosity than the recomended from suzuki
meggens85- Posts : 113
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just knocked up 1000k today seems fine so far
dessybarber- Posts : 23
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i find no issues at all running hpr30 year round when ambient temps dictate t shirt and jeans or less.
i would be hesitant using 30 in say katoomba in the dead of winter with your bike stored in an outside tin shed.
starting it with oil temperature of zero could cause a problem.
try putting a sample of hpr 30 in the freezer at minus 18 and watch how thick it goes. do the same for a 10w oil.
i would be hesitant using 30 in say katoomba in the dead of winter with your bike stored in an outside tin shed.
starting it with oil temperature of zero could cause a problem.
try putting a sample of hpr 30 in the freezer at minus 18 and watch how thick it goes. do the same for a 10w oil.
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good point lucky the temperature in Townsville is lucky to get below 20 deg on a winters day.. but if I head to the cold country I will follow your advise
dessybarber- Posts : 23
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Yeah i live down south in geelong it might get a bit cold down here in winter to run hpr30
But do u think hpr10 or 20 would be ok for bikes
But do u think hpr10 or 20 would be ok for bikes
meggens85- Posts : 113
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Nope. Hpr gas10
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I might be missing something here, but why not just use motorcycle oil designed for motorcycles .................a little dearer sometimes depending on the oil , but the cost spread over mileage ratio would be negligible.
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Cost per litre.
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Yes , but an equivalent good quality mineral oil ( as is the penrite ) is not much different in cost and is motorcycle specific without added zinc..............
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I can run the one oil in all my engines. Buy 20lt or more and you pay less per litre.
But hey its your money.
But hey its your money.
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Maybe I'm just old fashioned ..............I have always believed that if it has a picture of a bike on it, it is the right stuff to use ..............I see your point though .
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paul- Posts : 7738
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Ever driven a mini matic?
They got the engine diff and an auto box to run quite well on a shared sump full of plain engine oil.
I just asked the question and dug around in the pdf after specifications and associated properties. Got the viscosity i wanted all meeting suzuki and toyota spec and a warm fuzzy feeling from being a tight arse.
They got the engine diff and an auto box to run quite well on a shared sump full of plain engine oil.
I just asked the question and dug around in the pdf after specifications and associated properties. Got the viscosity i wanted all meeting suzuki and toyota spec and a warm fuzzy feeling from being a tight arse.
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