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Post  Mr151 on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:05 pm

Been looking at a bandit, It's super cheap with some nice mods..But it's got very high kms.

Is 134,132 km too much to worry about? It's got very detailed service history, with new piston + rings at 75,000


With the following mods, What power figures would i be expecting?  I've rode a stock 2011 1250 so any power close to that would be nice.


Yoshi pipe 
Holeshot stepped headers, 
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer, 
Holeshot Stage 2 Carby & Jet kit including maxed out air box and filter interface
Holeshot performance high lift intake cam (Suzuki GSXR 750 spec)

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Post  Jimcoleman on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:15 pm

@Mr151 wrote:Been looking at a bandit, It's super cheap with some nice mods..But it's got very high kms.

Is 134,132 km too much to worry about? It's got very detailed service history, with new piston + rings at 75,000


With the following mods, What power figures would i be expecting?  I've rode a stock 2011 1250 so any power close to that would be nice.


Yoshi pipe 
Holeshot stepped headers, 
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer, 
Holeshot Stage 2 Carby & Jet kit including maxed out air box and filter interface
Holeshot performance high lift intake cam (Suzuki GSXR 750 spec)
ok its a 1200 or a 1250 with 134,132ks considering its such a low revving engine if the price is right go for it. look at it another way if you looking for a say honda jazz car with the same ks you wouldn't think twice

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  2wheelsagain on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:18 pm

Mods don't count unless they're exactly what you would do.
You'd be in the $1500 range for that bike in my opinion.
It shouldn't have needed new internals at 7500km so maybe it's had a hard life?
Used 1250s can be had for $4000 with less km but km's don't tell the full story.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Mr151 on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:22 pm

@Jimcoleman wrote:
@Mr151 wrote:Been looking at a 2005 bandit 1200, It's super cheap with some nice mods..But it's got very high kms.

Is 134,132 km too much to worry about? It's got very detailed service history, with new piston + rings at 75,000


With the following mods, What power figures would i be expecting?  I've rode a stock 2011 1250 so any power close to that would be nice.


Yoshi pipe 
Holeshot stepped headers, 
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer, 
Holeshot Stage 2 Carby & Jet kit including maxed out air box and filter interface
Holeshot performance high lift intake cam (Suzuki GSXR 750 spec)
ok its a 1200 or a 1250 with 134,132ks considering its such a low revving engine if the price is right go for it. look at it another way if you looking for a say honda jazz car with the same ks you wouldn't think twice

Sorry, It's a 2005 Bandit 1200. The kms did concern me, But with the excellent service history i'm sort of not so worried.

My current bike only has 13,400ks, so you can see my concern from going to low to so high.


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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Mr151 on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:23 pm

@2wheelsagain wrote:Mods don't count unless they're exactly what you would do.
You'd be in the $1500 range for that bike in my opinion.
It shouldn't have needed new internals at 7500km so maybe it's had a hard life?
Used 1250s can be had for $4000 with less km but km's don't tell the full story.

According to the advert, It's mainly highway kms, 10-12 Trips to Phillip island etc.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Bosco15 on Wed 18 May 2016, 8:52 pm

Wheel bearings, steering head bearings, swingarm, suspension have all done the km's too. 
If they have been maintained well, then no concerns. But something to look at. 
If the price is right, go for it.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  mtbeerwah on Thu 19 May 2016, 10:40 pm

What mods has it got...internal mods?
As has been said, it shouldn't need rebuilding at 75000.
I rebuilt mine at 170 000, and it didn't need doing, I just wanted to play.
I'm anal with maintenance, oil every 3000 from new,
always grease everything depending on use. I bought all new swing arm bearings 30 000 ago,
and they didn't need it, as I always maintain the bike. The was no play at all.
Wheel bearings is a good thing to change though.
If your concerned, get a compression test done for piece of mind.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Mr151 on Thu 19 May 2016, 11:38 pm

@mtbeerwah wrote:What mods has it got...internal mods?
As has been said, it shouldn't need rebuilding at 75000.
I rebuilt mine at 170 000, and it didn't need doing, I just wanted to play.
I'm anal with maintenance, oil every 3000 from new,
always  grease everything depending on use. I bought all new swing arm bearings 30 000 ago,
and they didn't need it, as I always maintain the bike. The was no play at all.
Wheel bearings is a good thing to change though.
If your concerned, get a compression test done for piece of mind.
Engine mods are.

Yoshi pipe 
Holeshot stepped headers, 
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer, 
Holeshot Stage 2 Carby & Jet kit including maxed out air box and filter interface
Holeshot performance high lift intake cam (Suzuki GSXR 750 spec)


Has other things, braided lines, redone suspension, hayabusa rear shock.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  mtbeerwah on Fri 20 May 2016, 2:10 am

Well given what you said, there should be no reason to put rings and pistons in at 75000.
I smell a rat.....
If it's been put back together correctly, and you have log books to back up justification,
It should be alright,but ask many questions!!!! Why rebuild???????

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Mr151 on Sun 22 May 2016, 12:00 am

@mtbeerwah wrote:Well given what you said, there should be no reason to put rings and pistons in at 75000.
I smell a rat.....
 If it's been put back together correctly, and you have log books to back up justification,
It should be alright,but ask many questions!!!!      Why rebuild???????

I'm going to look at it next weekend sometime. I have no means to to a compression test on the spot.

What should i look out for? listen for?
If everything is OK, What should i offer without sounding rude? it's currently as 1800 negotiable.

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Bosco15 on Sun 22 May 2016, 5:34 am

$1800 neg, looking for $1500. 
If it's registered and runs, has good tyres, I would snap it up. The pipe and headers, alone, would cost the asking price.  
If it has a good service history,  as you say, then you can expect few problems. At the price offered, it is worth picking up, if it is the style of bike that you are looking for.  
The quick and the dead. It may be gone by next weekend.  affraid

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  gus on Sun 22 May 2016, 10:54 am

$1000 max ,not a cent more .At those miles 99% of people will run away . That leaves you the only buyer at all interested . . If it goes pop you sell it for parts for $900
Be prepared to walk away when he says no to a grand . Bet you don't get the front gate .
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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  Mr151 on Sun 22 May 2016, 3:44 pm

The seller is away until next weekend, so I'm pretty safe that no one will snatch it up before I gave a chance to look at it.

The yoshi slip on is a little dented, so it'll need repairs to be worth anything if I was to sell it as parts. Everything else is OK. The headers are dull in color so might need rechroming to be visually appealing, but that just aesthetics.

On the money, I think $1000 is a low ball offer. $1500 seems reasonable. It is registered, will an aftermarket horn effect rwc? It's got a stebel nautilus horn

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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  gus on Sun 22 May 2016, 6:29 pm

Really , this was $200 motor is tired.
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Post  gus on Sun 22 May 2016, 6:32 pm

Its not low ball is it goes POP . How many years old is it . $1000 not a cent more . Very Happy
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Post  reddog on Mon 23 May 2016, 12:05 am

I'm with gus here. Anymore and walk away
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Re: Few questions regarding mods and high kms

Post  gus on Tue 31 May 2016, 6:40 pm

And the end result was ????
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