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Post  BanditDave on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 2:26 pm

I've been pondering the meaning of these roadside signs for some time and I think I now understand them.



If you are driving a car you must keep at least 1metre away from cyclists.

So riding my motorcycle I am exempt from this rule

I likey this very muchly Twisted Evil

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Post  Ewok1958 on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 3:39 pm

No Dave, motorcyclists are recognised to be more considerate towards cyclists and don't need to be told! Wink
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Post  BanditDave on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 4:04 pm

I knew that Very Happy

Interestingly, I just found an accessory

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=55&zenid=oGNpbDumL7W,MGXVy27mf1

that is intended for cyclists to use against motorists.


On the same subject, I have a friend who is a devout cyclist. In a recent discussion I suggested that there is an even more cost effective solution to providing cycle lanes on roads.

My proposal is to put a single cycle lane where the centre line is at present which would reduce either the overall width of the road or provide wider lanes for the "paying customers". He hasn't spoken to me since. I guess he is a little busy. Shocked

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Post  Brigand on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 5:51 pm

Just love the cats claw
Recently I have found a number of cyclist going from single file to two abreast when I approach from their rear on the motor bike, I'm not sure if its just flukey timing or wether it is meant as a blocking method
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Post  madmax on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 6:04 pm

@Brigand wrote:Just love the cats claw
Recently I have found a number of cyclist going from single file to two abreast when I approach from their rear on the motor bike, I'm not sure if its just flukey timing or wether it is meant as a blocking method

That's when you go straight between them, take both of them out at the same time

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Post  Re-Cycled on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 6:16 pm

@BanditDave wrote:I knew that Very Happy

Interestingly, I just found an accessory

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=55&zenid=oGNpbDumL7W,MGXVy27mf1

that is intended for cyclists to use against motorists.


On the same subject, I have a friend who is a devout cyclist. In a recent discussion I suggested that there is an even more cost effective solution to providing cycle lanes on roads.

My proposal is to put a single cycle lane where the centre line is at present which would reduce either the overall width of the road or provide wider lanes for the "paying customers". He hasn't spoken to me since. I guess he is a little busy. Shocked
That's a great accessory, I'm getting one for my car 3' 1" long so I can tell when I'm the right distance from the cyclist. Very Happy

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Post  barry_mcki on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 6:17 pm

@madmax wrote:
@Brigand wrote:Just love the cats claw
Recently I have found a number of cyclist going from single file to two abreast when I approach from their rear on the motor bike, I'm not sure if its just flukey timing or wether it is meant as a blocking method

That's when you go straight between them, take both of them out at the same time


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Post  Chook on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 6:34 pm

@Ewok1958 wrote:No Dave, motorcyclists are recognised to be more considerate towards cyclists and don't need to be told! Wink
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Post  Ewok1958 on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 8:23 pm

@Chook wrote:
@Ewok1958 wrote:No Dave, motorcyclists are recognised to be more considerate towards cyclists and don't need to be told! Wink
Actually Chook, we were so impressed when in ADL for the Tour Downunder how good ADL drivers were to cyclists. Perhaps its just they are conditioned to the cycle traffic associated with the Tour. But they were seriously considerate and polite.
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Post  Chook on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 11:23 pm

@Ewok1958 wrote:
@Chook wrote:
@Ewok1958 wrote:No Dave, motorcyclists are recognised to be more considerate towards cyclists and don't need to be told! Wink
Actually Chook, we were so impressed when in ADL for the Tour Downunder how good ADL drivers were to cyclists. Perhaps its just they are conditioned to the cycle traffic associated with the Tour. But they were seriously considerate and polite.
There is a core element over here that hate anything 2 wheels, even more so if it doesn't have a motor and will go out of their way to "buzz", chase, harass, I had a couple of dicks swerve at me early one Sunday, I was in a bike lane, the left lane is wide enough for 1 1/2 lanes and their mirror brushed me, not a isolated case either, I've also been spat at, had objects thrown at me, verbal abused nearly daily when I rode to work and back for a bout 12 months.

Maybe they were just on their best behaviour during TDU with the extra focus on push bikes
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Post  Bosco15 on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 8:05 am

Since the new law came into effect, in fact the very morning that it did, I have noticed that riders in Newcastle tend to sit as close to the white line, of their cycle lane, as possible. This reduces the gap between themselves and the passing traffic.  
If they rode to the left of their cycle lane, there would be a far greater gap than one metre. 
I recognise that cyclists have legal rights on the road, but I do believe that in exercising them they are increasing their risk of injury a lot of the time.  
I feel that the new gap laws have had a detrimental effect on safety. As the cyclists push their rights to the limit they decrease the margin for error. 
The laws of the road may give legal protection but the laws of physics don't take this into account when a lycra clad peanut exercising his legal right encounters a two ton mass being driven by miss textalot. 
Personally, I avoid the road at all costs when I ride my pushy.

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Post  madmax on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 8:41 am

@Bosco15 wrote:Since the new law came into effect, in fact the very morning that it did, I have noticed that riders in Newcastle tend to sit as close to the white line, of their cycle lane, as possible. This reduces the gap between themselves and the passing traffic.  
If they rode to the left of their cycle lane, there would be a far greater gap than one metre. 
I recognise that cyclists have legal rights on the road, but I do believe that in exercising them they are increasing their risk of injury a lot of the time.  
I feel that the new gap laws have had a detrimental effect on safety. As the cyclists push their rights to the limit they decrease the margin for error. 
The laws of the road may give legal protection but the laws of physics don't take this into account when a lycra clad peanut exercising his legal right encounters a two ton mass being driven by miss textalot. 
Personally, I avoid the road at all costs when I ride my pushy.

Several times you will see it, cyclist making it hard for motorists to pass them. Going up to Lake Mountain back in January, cyclists in single file in front of me as soon as they here you coming up behind them they move to two abreast. A deliberate attempt to stop cars passing them.
Not saying they all do this but there is an increasing number of a***hole cyclists out there. No wonder there is such an anti-cyclist reaction from motorists. Unfortunately I think bike rego will make the attitude worse

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Post  barry_mcki on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 9:02 am

A little toot of my horn seems to make them aware I'm behind them Shocked

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Post  Chook on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 9:12 am

@madmax wrote:
 there is an increasing number of a***hole cyclists out there. No wonder there is such an anti-cyclist reaction from motorists. Unfortunately I think bike rego will make the attitude worse
I don't think the percentage of arsehole bike riders is that different to the percentage of arsehole in "any other group of road users"

-people see a car driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, 20 minutes later most are over it and it's forgotten about it

-people see a taxi driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, 5 minutes later they are over it because it's considered "normal behaviour" for them

-people see a truck driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few days, after that they over it and it's forgotten about it

-people see a motor cyclist doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few days, after that, most get over it and it's forgotten about it, a small group will never let it go

-people see a cyclist doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few weeks, most normal people get over it, a fair chunk of the population use it as a excuse to start a never ending crusade against all cyclists (the media is the biggest offender here)
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Post  barry_mcki on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 9:24 am

@madmax wrote:Several times you will see it, cyclist making it hard for motorists to pass them. Going up to Lake Mountain back in January, cyclists in single file in front of me as soon as they hear you coming up behind them they move to two abreast. ...

Don't you get to choose which push bike you need to be a metre away from in these circumstances ? Shocked

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Post  Chook on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 9:29 am

@barry_mcki wrote:
@madmax wrote:Several times you will see it, cyclist making it hard for motorists to pass them. Going up to Lake Mountain back in January, cyclists in single file in front of me as soon as they hear you coming up behind them they move to two abreast. ...

Don't you get to choose which push bike you need to be a metre away from in these circumstances ? Shocked
Maybe that's just a Victorian thing, they're all pricks aren't they? Wink
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Post  madmax on Sat 02 Apr 2016, 11:28 am

@Chook wrote:
@madmax wrote:
 there is an increasing number of a***hole cyclists out there. No wonder there is such an anti-cyclist reaction from motorists. Unfortunately I think bike rego will make the attitude worse
I don't think the percentage of arsehole bike riders is that different to the percentage of arsehole in "any other group of road users"

-people see a car driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, 20 minutes later most are over it and it's forgotten about it

-people see a taxi driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, 5 minutes later they are over it because it's considered "normal behaviour" for them

-people see a truck driver doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few days, after that they over it and it's forgotten about it

-people see a motor cyclist doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few days, after that, most get over it and it's forgotten about it, a small group will never let it go

-people see a cyclist doing dumb shit, they ark up, rant about it to their mates for a few weeks, most normal people get over it, a fair chunk of the population use it as a excuse to start a never ending crusade against all cyclists (the media is the biggest offender here)

There's a difference between doing dum shit and doing something deliberately rude and interfering. They're are the ones that get up my goat, and that is for all road users

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