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Post  2wheelsagain on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm

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Some already know but for those who don't I sold my Firestorm a couple of weeks ago to a mate who rode it once and almost refused to give it back  That ownership was a good but sometimes frustrating 3yrs or so.

So that gave me the opportunity to survive on 1 bike. That lasted 1 day officially  lol!


I was after something non Jap for the first time in 40yrs. In the search I just missed out on a RSV4 Factory and I test rode a MV F3 800 which was offered to me at a give away price but it was mental in its power delivery and there was "just something about it" that didn't sit well. I consulted some brains trust from here who I respect and got a mixed answer so I let it go. Then I hit on the idea of the naked version. The MV B3 800 Brutale. Same chassis. Same engine. Just with the 675 injectors and smaller airbox knocking 20hp off but increasing the torque. 

This is now living in my garage and it's a bloody hoot.



I have to relearn to ride it especially cornering. 160kg 1380mm wheelbase. Wide bars. No gyroscopic effect since the engine counter rotates. It literally drops into corners. After about 800km im getting the hang of it but not there yet. Not overly confident in the PD Rosso 2 tyres and I've never been a fan of the Rosso's.

The bike has already shown me its "Italianness" in a couple of minor ways and I'm sure that stuff I'll either love or loath in time. But so far I love it. Even the concrete seat 

It's a long way from a 10yr olds CT90 I can assure you.

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Post  mtbeerwah on Tue 29 Mar 2016, 9:28 pm

I can`t get the image mate.

It directs me to photobucket, and wants me to sign in, which I`m not part of.

I know what your saying though about taking a photo of a beam.
I`ve taken a few over the years. You fix one part of the image to correct for overexposure , then it affects another part of the image.

There`s an art in that alone.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Tue 29 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm

That should have been a link to a public album PB must be playing up.
Click these thumbnails then.

High Beam


Low Beam






White Light

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Post  mtbeerwah on Tue 29 Mar 2016, 10:00 pm

Thanks for that mate.

The low beam seams nice. Quiet uniform and even.

Would be good to be able to incorporate the Low with the Hi.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Tue 29 Mar 2016, 10:15 pm

@mtbeerwah wrote:Thanks for that mate.

The low beam seams nice. Quiet uniform and even.

Would be good to be able to incorporate the Low with the Hi.
No worries mate. It's a big enough light that you could upgrade the wattage and see the benefits. I'm impressed how white the light is but I'm not about to dodge Roos unless I have too:lol:

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Re: MV Brutale 800

Post  mtbeerwah on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 4:59 pm

I just took a 2016 Brutale 800 demo for a squirt.



Hate to say it mate, but I really don`t like the bike.


I found the gear lever at a very silly angle, that made it really hard to negotiate the gears.
The gear box sounded super loud and rattly. And really clunky gear changes.
It felt like it lacked a lot of power and torque.


They`re a good looking bike, but I much prefer the Speed Triple, or the MT-09 in rideability.


Different strokes for different folks though.
This is what makes the world go round, and we all like different things.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 6:40 pm

Gear lever is adjustable and they must have removed 2 plugs because they out power and torque the MT09 and I think the Trumpy. 
Doesn't worry me if you don't like it. I've had plenty of bikes and mine is a ripper (2013/14)

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Post  mtbeerwah on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 6:52 pm

All good mate.

There`s shit loads of bikes out there to explore, and least your doing, and not procrastinating.

If one doesn`t try these things, then how does one ever know.

I was comparing it directly to my Bandit in power, not the other 3`s

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Post  2wheelsagain on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 7:24 pm

@mtbeerwah wrote:All good mate.

There`s shit loads of bikes out there to explore, and least your doing, and not procrastinating.

If one doesn`t try these things, then how does one ever know.

I was comparing it directly to my Bandit in power, not the other 3`s
Only another Bandit is a good comparison there  Very Happy
As far as mechanical noise goes I think because they're a triple people expect the Trumpy turbine like sound. These are more raucous. Add the counter rotating crankshaft that seems to reflect internal energy not absorb it they are noisier until about 6k and absolutely hauling arse at 9k all the way to the limiter.
What did you think of the QS and slipper?
Yep there's a bike or 2 for everyone.

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Post  mtbeerwah on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 7:38 pm

The slipper is good, along with the no clutch thing, that I found hard to get use to.
I naturally wanted to keep on using the clutch.

This 2016, you can go up and down without using the clutch. From what I understand by the dealer,
the older models you can only go up, not down, is that correct with yours?

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Post  2wheelsagain on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 8:17 pm

@mtbeerwah wrote:The slipper is good, along with the no clutch thing, that I found hard to get use to.
I naturally wanted to keep on using the clutch.

This 2016, you can go up and down without using the clutch. From what I understand by the dealer,
the older models you can only go up, not down, is that correct with yours?
Yep only up with my QS. It's almost the greatest thing ever invented (when you get used to it) These basically don't have a flywheel and it's difficult to get a smooth change using the clutch.

Just to show off my arse. 
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Post  barry_mcki on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 8:50 pm

I was told a slipper clutch means there is no engine braking, is that true ?

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Post  2wheelsagain on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 9:24 pm

@barry_mcki wrote:I was told a slipper clutch means there is no engine braking, is that true ?
No mate. You're far from free wheeling. Just takes the harshness out of the down changes.

Some clutches are adjustable I believe.

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Post  Bosco15 on Sat 16 Apr 2016, 9:39 pm

A well set up slipper clutch allows for engine braking but will start to slip before locking the rear wheel, allowing for aggressive down shifting without having to worry about compression lock ups.
This is my understanding. 
The SV1000 employs a very rudimentary version because of the huge amount of braking provided by the twin.

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Post  Chook on Sun 17 Apr 2016, 10:44 am

@2wheelsagain wrote:
@barry_mcki wrote:I was told a slipper clutch means there is no engine braking, is that true ?
No mate. You're far from free wheeling. Just takes the harshness out of the down changes.

Some clutches are adjustable I believe.
I was told the same as Barry (probably the same source), he was very clear about it too
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Post  2wheelsagain on Sun 17 Apr 2016, 11:06 am

@Chook wrote:
@2wheelsagain wrote:
@barry_mcki wrote:I was told a slipper clutch means there is no engine braking, is that true ?
No mate. You're far from free wheeling. Just takes the harshness out of the down changes.

Some clutches are adjustable I believe.
I was told the same as Barry (probably the same source), he was very clear about it too

The correct "modern" term is Back Torque Limiting Clutch. Note the word "limiting".

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Post  Chook on Sun 17 Apr 2016, 1:36 pm

OK, it was explained to me that there was no engine braking
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Post  V17R on Tue 19 Apr 2016, 7:44 pm

2wheelsagain, that is a seriously good looking bike
I saw that doco on tv last year about MV's, was great viewing
the Japs just cant design anything with the style and flair of those Italians
the old Bandit is good for what it is but has nothing much going on in the style department
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Post  Chook on Tue 19 Apr 2016, 8:04 pm

I just found this explanation of a slipper clutch 


http://bikeadvice.in/slipper-clutch-how-works/
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Post  2wheelsagain on Tue 19 Apr 2016, 9:03 pm

@V17R wrote:2wheelsagain, that is a seriously good looking bike
I saw that doco on tv last year about MV's, was great viewing
the Japs just cant design anything with the style and flair of those Italians
the old Bandit is good for what it is but has nothing much going on in the style department
Thanks mate. Yes they do know how to build nice looking rigs but they're not as practical as the Japs or as well thought through.

Sometimes Euro designers sketch a bike and tell the engineers to build it where I'm sure the Japs form committees to make sure everything works together.

Have a look at an MV and they're beautiful. Have a close look and you'll be asking why did they do that?

In any case I love riding this thing. It's so different to the VFR1200 which is also very good.

Chook that explanation is a good one. The Bandits would be better with slipper clutches cheers

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Post  #Tag on Wed 20 Apr 2016, 8:59 am

I certainly agree with 2WA - these slipper jobbies are just a bloody delight.

I've tried a few quickshifters which were a bit hard to get along with but never heard a bad word from anybody who's used a slipper clutch.
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Post  spanna on Wed 20 Apr 2016, 4:01 pm

Congrats 2WA, they are an impressive machine. I couldn't justify 2 bikes on full reg as I already have 3 club reg rides, so I traded in my 09 bandit and bought the Turismo Veloce Lusso. Its not as aggressive as the Brutale but much more comfortable to ride, this was important 'cause wifey is pillion most weekends. I pick mine up on Friday.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Wed 20 Apr 2016, 10:18 pm

@spanna wrote:Congrats 2WA, they are an impressive machine. I couldn't justify 2 bikes on full reg as I already have 3 club reg rides, so I traded in my 09 bandit and bought the Turismo Veloce Lusso. Its not as aggressive as the Brutale but much more comfortable to ride, this was important 'cause wifey is pillion most weekends. I pick mine up on Friday.
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Congrats again to you mate. There's not many of them over here but they seem pretty good by all accounts. 

Terry you have to tell the QS who's boss and not muck about. Mine is as smooth as butter as long as you have positive throttle.

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