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Post  Corsa79 on Wed 17 Jun 2015, 9:59 pm

Well I have decided to try some lower bars out. Im 6"2 with my hight coming from long torso not legs. I find I site way to upright. Others might like this but not my style of ridding. Well got on to the third gear site where I have found some good cheap stuff. going to try some café racer bars. Not shore how they are going to go but for $16 including postage I though tit was worth a try and if not right will give me a better idea of what I will want to get. Then again I might be happy with them. Will post picks when done. Has anyone done the opposite to the norm on here of raising and put heaps lower or different bars like drag bars so on? I have seen about a few get the Renthal bars.
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Post  Bosco15 on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 5:36 am

For $16 I would be very tempted to put the new bars in a vice (with soft jaws) & test just how strong they actually are. 
I'm not saying that they will be crap, but your bars take quite some force when stopping in a hurry.  
I fitted some Renthal Super Lows, with a new top yoke, to my SV. The bike came with clip ons originally.  
My first ride after the mod and the Renthals felt like rubber, compared to the clip ons, they had so much flex. I was sound in the knowledge that they were engineered and designed to be that way,  by Renthal. 
If I had done the mod using $16 bars and got the same flex, I think I would have binned them. 
Again,  I'm not bagging cheap parts. ( I just bought two folding Yamaha (copies):foot pegs for my TRX. $9.90 delivered for the pair, complete with pins and clips. ) Just be aware of the quality of your product before trusting your life with it. Smile

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Post  Chook on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 7:57 am

@Bosco15 wrote:  
My first ride after the mod and the Renthals felt like rubber, compared to the clip ons, they had so much flex. I was sound in the knowledge that they were engineered and designed to be that way,  by Renthal. 


If you make something light yet rigid something has to give, usually it will fatigue and crack.
Make it super heavy and rigid it will be durable but who wants to add more weight to their ride?
Make it light but pliable and you will get flex but should also get a product that is "elastic" and shouldn't fatigue and crack at anywhere near the rate of light and rigid.

Metallurgists and engineers spend hours trying to get the right balance of weight, strength and flexibility
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Post  Hammy on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 8:32 am

Renthal Street Ultra Lows.   Great bars on a Bandit.    

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Post  2wheelsagain on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 10:16 am

I have nothing specific to add regarding these bars but over the years I have bought heaps of stuff from Third Gear and none of it has been crap.

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Post  barry_mcki on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 10:33 am

The standard Bandit bars are about 100mm tall, the Renthal offer a couple of different styles, eg. the Ultra Lows and Sports will give 25mm to 40mm drop.  There are also differences to the pull-back and width, the standard bars pull-back is about 150mm and 660mm wide.  All these changes will alter your sitting posture as well as the angle of your wrists and arms, so be careful in just looking for lower bars as they might change something else that makes the ride even worse.



I paid about $70 for my Road Lows and they have served me well, but I'm nowhere as tall as you (5'10") .

You can also lower your seat about 25mm if you haven't already, that's an even cheaper alternative, and easily reversed if it doesn't work out.

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Post  Chook on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 11:33 am

Interesting that the shortest Renthal bars are still 2" longer than std
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Post  Corsa79 on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 10:51 pm

Well got the bars today they where on sale normaly $30 plus postage. They where a narrow café racer style well put them in tested how they felt on centre stand as if I was riding started swapping clutch side over and started running into problems definitely to narrow controls where going to hit tank and had to have clutch to close to tree. So still have standard bars on. For those who have changed bars do you just remove locator nob in controls or do you mark and drill holes in bars. Well for the price of the exercise I at least have some direction and got a few mates that chop and modify old bikes that might want them. Will look at the longer ones but think I will have to go on a simular style to the renthals. Thanks gyes.
P.S. Jump on and have a look at third gear they do have some good cheap gear. I also have a rear box that I put on hear when I made fram to fit in ventura rack mounting points which is still going strong no crackes or brakes in mount and quite often use it when want to leave bike. top box is nowhere near as heavey as a givi but does the job and if someone really wanted to get in they would no matter what you had.
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Post  barry_mcki on Thu 18 Jun 2015, 11:53 pm

I've posted this before, its still worth looking at.  He's putting Ultra Lows on a 1200 but its mostly relevant to the 1250 as well.  



I followed Delboy's advise (8:20 into the clip) as far as filing down the locating knob,  haven't had any problems with the controls moving.

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Post  SRAD_Pitt on Fri 19 Jun 2015, 3:30 pm

@Corsa79 wrote:Well got the bars today they where on sale normaly $30 plus postage. They where a narrow café racer style well put them in tested how they felt on centre stand as if I was riding started swapping clutch side over and started running into problems definitely to narrow controls where going to hit tank and had to have clutch to close to tree. So still have standard bars on. For those who have changed bars do you just remove locator nob in controls or do you mark and drill holes in bars. Well for the price of the exercise I at least have some direction and got a few mates that chop and modify old bikes that might want them. Will look at the longer ones but think I will have to go on a simular style to the renthals. Thanks gyes.
P.S. Jump on and have a look at third gear they do have some good cheap gear. I also have a rear box that I put on hear when I made fram to fit in ventura rack mounting points which is still going strong no crackes or brakes in mount and quite often use it when want to leave bike. top box is nowhere near as heavey as a givi but does the job and if someone really wanted to get in they would no matter what you had.

I live not to far from the third gear warehouse, I've been a few times and bought a few bits. 

When I stripped the fairings from my 12 I bought a headlamp, headlamp brackets, drag bars and mirrors. The drag bars are good, they're steel so they're heavy, but they feel strong.
The headlamp bulb blew a few weeks back, it was only an E2 type and now I'm doing more night riding so I went back and bought an H4 lamp. It's a lot brighter, but the reflector is installed upside down so the H4 bulb is shining upwards on low beam. This is great for reading overhead signage, but it must dazzle the fuck out of oncoming traffic, so I turned the reflector around 180 degrees in the housing. Unfortunately it's glued to the glass which now reads ԀO┴ at the bottom. Not great.

The drag bars are hurting my right arm so I went back and bought their aluminium renthal style bars with a brace. They flex quite a lot, much more than real renthal bars I've used, so I think I might get rid of them. I also mentioned to the guy on the counter that the headlight reflector was manufactured upside down and that he might want to check the rest of the stock. He didn't seem to care. 

So yeah, third gear has okaaaay stuff, but you gets what you pays for. I doubt I'll go back

edit - I usually remove the plastic tab from the controls if I'm fitting bars. Once the screws that hold the assembly together are done up it will not twist on the bar
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Post  Corsa79 on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 1:03 pm

Thanks everyone as for lowering the seat barry_mcki I am to cramped in the legs. When I bought the bike it was in the low position and when I stoped for the night I changed to high position in hotel room Smile. The riding position didn't feel to bad when I was riding long strait trips but now I live near good roads with good corners. I really do feel to upright. Will try some other bars after next pay. Thanks again everyone
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Post  Corsa79 on Sun 21 Jun 2015, 1:22 pm

Thanks everyone as for lowering the seat barry_mcki I am to cramped in the legs. When I bought the bike it was in the low position and when I stoped for the night I changed to high position in hotel room Smile. The riding position didn't feel to bad when I was riding long strait trips but now I live near good roads with good corners. I really do feel to upright. Will try some other bars after next pay. Thanks again everyone
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Finnaly got around to getting new bars

Post  Corsa79 on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 8:29 pm

Well got around to getting new bars. Got a set of superbike low bars from third gear. They are a steel bar and have made the difference I was hoping for. I am really happy I am leaning forwards now but not to much making it a more aggressive riding position. The bike feels right now I have more of my weight over the front. You can see in the pic the difference from standard. They are also slightly wider.
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Post  rd400f on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 6:02 am

@Corsa79 wrote:Well got around to getting new bars. Got a set of superbike low bars from third gear. They are a steel bar and have made the difference I was hoping for. I am really happy I am leaning forwards now but not to much making it a more aggressive riding position. The bike feels right now I have more of my weight over the front. You can see in the pic the difference from standard. They are also slightly wider.
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Post  Corsa79 on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 6:23 am

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