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Post  buford_t_justice on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 10:27 am

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I copped a ticket the other day,
just wondering what peoples thoughts are on what I should do, cop it and pay ? goto court ?.

I'm probably guilty of the offense, but man it happened in the blink of an eye!  18 year unblemished record gone in 2 seconds Sad

What happened ?
I turned into a street and was greeted with a motorist that looked like they were looking for an address and travelling slowly, after checking everything was safe, I overtook them, guess I picked up a little more speed than I thought, cop gunned me at 82 down to 77, could be right, I don't know, happened too quick. 

The worst bit ? a damn school zone Sad.  I know what you're thinking, but I have 5 kids, and I see people speeding through the school zones when I walk them to school and I think bloody idiot... and I did the same.

I missed the signs as they were right where I did the overtake (and obviously I'm concentrating on the car and anything around it) and the car was over the 40 painted to the road, no other cars or pedestrians around

Yeah I stuffed up, but man, 5 points and $835 Sad


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Re: Advice, speeding fine

Post  buford_t_justice on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:17 pm

Update on this, the letter for leniency was pointless as expected.

I elected to go to court, then I thought stuff it, I'll just pay and get on with life.

I then received a letter from SDRO saying they weren't sure what I wanted to do, as I had elected to go to court but also paid the fine.
The letter said I had 14 days to get back to them if I wished to take it to court, otherwise the paid amount would stand.

The next week I receive a letter from RMS saying my license will be suspended for 3 months (on the last day of the 14 day limit from the above letter)...
Funny how neither the cop, the fine or the appeal for leniency mentioned the suspension, you're only notified once you pay (unless of course you're already aware of the penalties). Even links like http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roads/safety-rules/demerits-speeding.pdf don't mention it.

So you end up in a situation where you pay the fine, then receive a suspension letter later.
You can elect to take the suspension to court, but you wont get the fine money back, so really you'd be better going to court from the outset ? (situation dependent)

I rung RMS thinking it was some sort of mistake, and it took the girl 15 mins to find the page that states the 3 and 6 month suspensions.
Everyone at work thought it was over 45 ? Was this changed recently ?.

Anyhoo, washup is that I used that letter from SDRO to get the $835 back, and will go to court and try for a section 10.

What a fcking saga ...
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Re: Advice, speeding fine

Post  Chook on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 7:25 am

@Kiwisteve wrote:Don't forget the 5 years that it'll take to get your points back. & during that 5 years, your insurance co will slug you maximum premiums as you are now considered an unsafe driver. Not only on your bike, but any vehicle that is rego'd in your name
you don't get your points back, they are demerit points, (bad ones, not good ones), you start with zero and accumulate them as you get caught, after (3 years in SA) you then lose them
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Post  Jimmy the Boy on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 8:40 am

Its a saga alright, but I think you have a chance of a section 10 with the right Magistrate. Its been well documented in NSW on a morning talk back radio program that if you live in an affluent suburb or you are rich and or famous they hand out section 10's like lollies. There's a lot of wrist slapping going on if you have money. Lets use a well know ex wife of a TV and casino mogul as an example. 4 times over the limit on a suspended licence for the sixth time, rolls her 4WD and ruins 3 parked cars and somehow doesn't kill herself or anyone else. $1100 fine. What a joke.

I hope your rich and famous Buford.Smile

In all seriousness though, I think if you show remorse and explain the circumstances honestly you have a good chance. Good luck mate.
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Post  Bosco15 on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:03 am

Do the crime. Pay the fine. 
Your license to speed fees are finally due. 
How many times have you not been caught over the years?  
Clean license just means that you have not been caught. I doubt very much that you drive like "Miss Daisy" 
I pay mine regularly,  every couple of years or so. 
I have always contested that you are allowed to speed. You just have to pay for the right. 
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
Pity that the fine is so high, but school zones are to be respected. Imo.

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Post  bikemad on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 9:54 am

Well if it were me and it would not take much for it to be me - I would take it to court and represent myself plead guilty on the first hearing and explain the circumstances to the judge and asked to have it converted to community service only the judge has the power to do this and you can work it off part time at the local charity they can supply details of where you can go to do it ? then you will probably still cop a $ 100 offender levy that you will have to pay out of your pocket . 

Still better than giving over the $ well for me anyway cheers

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Post  1wheeldrive on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 4:35 pm

@Bosco15 wrote:Do the crime. Pay the fine. 
Your license to speed fees are finally due. 
How many times have you not been caught over the years?  
Clean license just means that you have not been caught. I doubt very much that you drive like "Miss Daisy" 
I pay mine regularly,  every couple of years or so. 
I have always contested that you are allowed to speed. You just have to pay for the right. 
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed
Pity that the fine is so high, but school zones are to be respected. Imo.
That is a fantastic argument for those self  righteous bureaucratic wankers that state speed cameras are there to save lives. lol!

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Re: Advice, speeding fine

Post  Chook on Thu 18 Sep 2014, 1:30 pm

@Bosco15 wrote:
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
that's a bit simplistic when we have about 20 different speed limits around the country
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Post  1wheeldrive on Thu 18 Sep 2014, 5:48 pm

@Chook wrote:
@Bosco15 wrote:
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
that's a bit simplistic when we have about 20 different speed limits around the country

Nah, not at all. My 48month old Tom Tom (it reminds me its old) knows where all the speed zones are. Apply that simple satellite tech to a govener in the car, bike etc and bingo. No more easy government speeding tax fines.

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Re: Advice, speeding fine

Post  madmax on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 6:19 am

@1wheeldrive wrote:
@Chook wrote:
@Bosco15 wrote:
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
that's a bit simplistic when we have about 20 different speed limits around the country

Nah, not at all. My 48month old Tom Tom (it reminds me its old) knows where all the speed zones are. Apply that simple satellite tech to a govener in the car, bike etc and bingo. No more easy government speeding tax fines.

Speed zones on Tom Toms are not always right

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Post  2wheelsagain on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 6:55 am

@madmax wrote:
@1wheeldrive wrote:
@Chook wrote:
@Bosco15 wrote:
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
that's a bit simplistic when we have about 20 different speed limits around the country

Nah, not at all. My 48month old Tom Tom (it reminds me its old) knows where all the speed zones are. Apply that simple satellite tech to a govener in the car, bike etc and bingo. No more easy government speeding tax fines.

Speed zones on Tom Toms are not always right
Speed zones are loaded onto the map data. They are not detected "live" if that's what you ment 1wd.

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Post  barry_mcki on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 7:36 am



Your faith in technology is very admirable Very Happy

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i just dont get it ????

Post  bikemad on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 9:39 am

Well I guess you could argue the fact that it you were going at the speed limit and had a accident that if you had been going faster or slower you would have been before or past the point of impact hence no accident - akin to ''sliding doors'' the movie - lets face it it's mostly about timing and stupidity mostly by car drivers most of the time who don't have a good look before pulling out  affraid  

I have been riding on the road every day for almost 40 years and have not had one accident that was my fault ! only one prang in fact and yes there has been some serious speeding in that time by me .

In recent times Government has tried to make road enforcement very black and white and drawn a line we must not cross or $$$$ will apply to us - they just keep on getting it wrong time and time again but then is it about road safety or revenue ? why can we legally buy rocketships that can do more than 3 times the legal limit and then hide to catch us with their starwars detection gear. should we use these missiles (bikes) for what they are built for ? would you buy a fully automatic assault rifle and only have it on single shot mode only I think there is not a person alive who would not let her rip on auto for the wow factor ?  

My local school has a crossing that is 40 ks when the sign applies but they also run a sunday market there and I personally would not do more than 20 ks when it's in full flight - kids crossing , plants ,dogs, old blind people , you name it crosses there on market day and you can do 60 past it and be legal in the eyes of the law  cheers .

anyway that's what I think sunny

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Post  1wheeldrive on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 4:25 pm

@2wheelsagain wrote:
@madmax wrote:
@1wheeldrive wrote:
@Chook wrote:
@Bosco15 wrote:
If you were not allowed to speed, all vehicles would be speed governed. 
that's a bit simplistic when we have about 20 different speed limits around the country

Nah, not at all. My 48month old Tom Tom (it reminds me its old) knows where all the speed zones are. Apply that simple satellite tech to a govener in the car, bike etc and bingo. No more easy government speeding tax fines.

Speed zones on Tom Toms are not always right
Speed zones are loaded onto the map data. They are not detected "live" if that's what you ment 1wd.

Your absolutely right, but with a little tweaking and road safety in mind, I think Big Brother those that are so concerned about our well being.......
Sorry for the thread pirating,  I'll bow out now. pirat

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Post  1wheeldrive on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 4:29 pm

@barry_mcki wrote:

Your faith in technology is very admirable Very Happy

I just bought a FI ABS Bandit, There's faith right there! Laughing

Ps. I couldn't help myself Embarassed

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