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Post  BanditDave Sat 02 Aug 2014, 7:27 am

Tank Protection, not the Abrams type

I am looking at better tank protection than the little stick on pads that are supposed to prevent tank scratches from belt buckles etc.

I felt that a number of scratches on the Bandit tank were beyond the area of coverage

I have found a product 3M 1080 vinyl wrap that could supposedly cover the entire rear of the tank.

3M claim the product can be removed up to three years later with no paint damage.

Has anyone used such products and what are your thoughts regarding covering the back half of the tank

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Post  2wheelsagain Sat 02 Aug 2014, 7:57 am

Bandit tanks scratch because of the stuff they put on the tank. It's not paint. It can't be. Paint actually lasts and has a deep gloss and is hard wearing.  That's what Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki call paint. I haven't found out what Suzuki calls the shit they put on the Bandit/GSX but it's not a patch on what was on my RF900R.

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Post  Dekenai Sat 02 Aug 2014, 8:04 am

had one like this http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/11609/i/targa-half-tank-cover on the Fireblade and it worked well.
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Post  reddog Sat 02 Aug 2014, 10:23 am

I've got the 3m clear stuff on the sills of the wife's VW Jetta. It works well, but not sure how you'd go with the angles on the tank. Maybe use a hair drier to soften it prior. 

If we didn't have it on the sills the paint would be toast by now. I recommend it
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Post  mtbeerwah Sat 02 Aug 2014, 10:39 am

If I can find the web site, I`ll pass it on..There is a company at the Gold Coast, that has wrap kits for almost all bikes. They sell as well as fit, and as Reddog has suggested, they do use heat to mould around corners.

I was put on to this site by the owners of one of the bike shops up here, who has had some of his bikes covered, and they`re pretty good, very professional in appearance, and definitely no damage to surfaces after removal. 3M product.
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Post  BanditDave Sat 02 Aug 2014, 11:46 am

Thanks guys, looking forward to some more info.

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Post  Ewok1958 Sat 02 Aug 2014, 12:58 pm

mtbeerwah wrote:If I can find the web site, I`ll pass it on..There is a company at the Gold Coast, that has wrap kits for almost all bikes. They sell as well as fit, and as Reddog has suggested, they do use heat to mould around corners.

I was put on to this site by the owners of one of the bike shops up here, who has had some of his bikes covered, and they`re pretty good, very professional in appearance, and definitely no damage to surfaces after removal. 3M product.

A mate of mine with an SB650 got a protection kit from those guys.  he was happy with it.
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Post  sb1250 Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:46 pm

Can always give this a go!

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Post  madmax Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:53 pm

lol! 

or one of these
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Post  BanditDave Sat 02 Aug 2014, 4:01 pm

sb1250 wrote:Can always give this a go!

Tank Protection 456BE5A5-C107-48F5-B91F-F5CB70D47697_zpsxfgqilrc

I'd have to change my name from BanditDave to BubblesDave  Crying or Very sad

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Post  BanditDave Sat 02 Aug 2014, 4:02 pm

madmax wrote:lol! 

or one of these
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I don't think it would make me any worse a rider  Laughing

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Post  BanditDave Sat 02 Aug 2014, 4:04 pm

Ewok1958 wrote:
mtbeerwah wrote:If I can find the web site, I`ll pass it on..There is a company at the Gold Coast, that has wrap kits for almost all bikes. They sell as well as fit, and as Reddog has suggested, they do use heat to mould around corners.

I was put on to this site by the owners of one of the bike shops up here, who has had some of his bikes covered, and they`re pretty good, very professional in appearance, and definitely no damage to surfaces after removal. 3M product.

A mate of mine with an SB650 got a protection kit from those guys.  he was happy with it.

 I hope you are going to tell me who they are  Rolling Eyes

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Post  paul Sat 02 Aug 2014, 5:03 pm

When you apply that type of stuff , put soapy water on your tank first ( like windex ) , it makes it a lot easier to work with ( like the window tinters do ) & squeegee out the bubbles  Very Happy
This becomes optional with the bubble wrap due to the conflicting action of the bubbles  lol!

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Post  Cal Sat 02 Aug 2014, 5:34 pm

I know they are expensive but Geelong Carbon Craft do one. GSF1250: http://www.geelongcarboncraft.com.au/products/-GSF-1250-Bandit-2006%252d2012--Tank-Protector-Large.html

GSF1200: http://www.geelongcarboncraft.com.au/products/-GSF-1200-Bandit--2000%252d2005-Small-Tank-Protector.html
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Post  mtbeerwah Mon 04 Aug 2014, 10:18 pm

Duco Scratch.
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Post  SVDon Mon 04 Aug 2014, 11:49 pm

I put the 3M Clear Stuff on a couple of ST1100 tank backs I had years ago, and it worked great! I wear a Aerostich suit and it tends to scratch the tank otherwise.  I also have it covering the front of my Toyota Camry, and it works really well to keep the bugs and stones from beating up the front end.

On one of my ST1100's I actually used it to cover the headlight, which was glass on that bike.  I did it before a extended trip through Alaska and Canada because I had previously gotten a hole in the headlight and had to replace it due to a rock strike.  The heavy film headlight protector did it's job - no broken headlight even though we went through some pretty bad roads and had cars throwing up lots of rocks at us.  Don't know if you can use that on the FA though, as the headlight is plastic - Owners manual specifically states not to use it.


On the FA I just put a ProGrip tank protector - seems to be doing the job.  http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4861/i/pro-grip-tank-pad
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Post  BanditDave Tue 05 Aug 2014, 2:24 pm

Well, after a little more research and lots of info from both this and the CBR650 forum I have discovered that my incredibly outstanding idea of using vinyl wrap on the tank has been done many, many times before. BUGGER  Sad  Sad

I visited two vinyl sign shops yesterday and each gave me around 1/2 a metre (an offcut) to play with. I estimate I have enough to do about 20 bikes and the price is outstanding i.e. $0.00

It is a little cool today, 17C so I will wait for a slightly warmer day to do the job.

The material is only 70/75 microns thick but both suppliers said I could put on multiple layers if I wished.

The material I got is ORAGUARD 210 and ORAGUARD 215 clear laminating film which I understand is similar to the 3M product I found on the web earlier.

If it is as successful as I am expecting, I will recommend it to others in lieu of the little stick on tank protectors they sell at the bike shops.

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Post  madmax Tue 05 Aug 2014, 5:56 pm

Did they say if it was UV stable Dave?

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Post  BanditDave Tue 05 Aug 2014, 6:32 pm

Buggered if I know but these films are used on many, many, many, private and commercial vehicles so my answer is - I suppose so  Smile  Smile 

Oh, all right, I will have a look at the specs and report back.  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

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Post  Boatz Tue 05 Aug 2014, 7:23 pm

Go to Orafol.com.  They have a range of car wrapping materials.  The oraguard 210 is for short term outdoor applications.

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Post  BanditDave Wed 06 Aug 2014, 7:13 am

Thanks Boatz (and others)

The two samples I have are from Orafol, Oraguard 210 and Oraguard 215

I don't know what "short term" means but I will get some more info.

Both the above films are 70/75 micron thick. I asked one of the supplier and he said I could put multiple layers on if I wished.

Another of their films Oraguard 280 Stone Guard vinyl is 200micron and I would consider more durable.

I'm sure these products will scratch over time but if they are as easy to replace as the literature would have you believe then this is not an issue

More to come ......................

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Post  car_ham Thu 07 Aug 2014, 8:35 am

Cal wrote:I know they are expensive but Geelong Carbon Craft do one. GSF1250: http://www.geelongcarboncraft.com.au/products/-GSF-1250-Bandit-2006%252d2012--Tank-Protector-Large.html

GSF1200: http://www.geelongcarboncraft.com.au/products/-GSF-1200-Bandit--2000%252d2005-Small-Tank-Protector.html

I've had the large one on the GSX for about 12 months, fantastic bit of gear.

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Post  Ghostbandit Fri 08 Aug 2014, 3:03 pm

I was tossing up which option to go, seen one of the Geelong carbon craft tank protectors in the flesh, nice bit of kit, no not cheap but I've decided to go this option, Steve was great to speak to and said he would have a mould sorted over the weekend and have it all done and delivered by the end of the week, can't beat customer service like that!
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Post  BanditDave Fri 08 Aug 2014, 3:53 pm

What makes the 3M or Orafol products so attractive is the price. It's free in the sizes we require.

These are offcuts from much bigger jobs like the sides of vans and whole car bonnets.

I have had a bit of a play on an old fridge and it seems really easy to work with.

My only concern is it's removal however the more I hear about it the more confident I get.

I reckon I will have a go on the bike tank some time this weekend

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Post  Ghostbandit Fri 08 Aug 2014, 4:03 pm

It will be interesting to see how you go banditdave, I've got the 3m carbon fiber wrap that I used for my car interior, it is nice stuff, but wasn't gel coated so I'm not to sure how it would hold up to the elements. Was tossing up using the left over stuff, I still might use some to go over the top of the tripple clamp to stop the key chain scuffing the paint
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