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Post  2wheelsagain on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 12:58 pm

If a bloke/woman was to pick up a cheap 2000 VTR1000F because someone wanted to raise some quick cash would he/she be thought of as less a man/woman because they weren't on his/her list of potential bikes? Rolling Eyes 

If this same person asked for opinions on the VTR as a bike (smaller tank model) what would they be?
What would this person need to pay close attention to when inspecting said bike?


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Post  Hammy on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 1:09 pm

Then it would be totally up to the bloke/woman to decide.  Very Happy 

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Post  madmax on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 1:33 pm

That would depend on whether he or she could guarantee to make a quick profit. Not much point if money had to be spent on it to get it roadworthy. Or if it took a long time to sell.

IMHO cars, bikes etc make lousy investments unless they are of course a rare classic

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Post  Jimcoleman on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 1:34 pm

They are a cracker bike if the price is right and the bike good go for gold

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Post  gus on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 4:50 pm

Then I would buy it .
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Post  2wheelsagain on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 5:08 pm

This person is keen because the price is right.  Bike seems sound with less than 20k on the clock. 
Bit its not the bike/s they thought they would get next.
I guess this person could sell next summer and turn a small profit if it didn't work out.

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Post  Jimmy the Boy on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 6:02 pm

I think if the price is right and the condition is very good then said person will not be unhappy with a VTR. The only thing they had a habit of was dropping a cylinder but that was fixed under warranty if it happened. ( happened to my mates 10 years ago and not a worry since ). Very ordinary fuel economy ( big thirsty carbies ) but thats no biggie. Everyone knows you have to plan a ride around the Doofus with the VTR.
Great bike, great fun, great note, much the same as the TL till you get higher in the rev range. Better suspension though, they handle really well. I would buy one in a second if the price was right. Was actually looking at a couple whilst searching for the TL.
Hope your friend finds this informative. Twinners are grinners Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy .
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Post  paul on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 6:44 pm

Every thing going for them except for the fuel range................if you can work around that , I don't think you .....sorry.......... your friend will regret it / they sound awesome with aftermarket pipes Very Happy 

You .......sorry .......your friend really only has to please himself , not the rest of the world .

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Post  Jimcoleman on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 9:38 pm

that person should not buy if they plan to make a profit, cause you very rarely make a profit, buy it to enjoy it thats why it was made in the first place
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Post  Kaupy1962 on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 11:08 pm

They are a nice toy and I would definately own one.
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Post  Hammy on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 10:11 am

What about this then. 

 [url=http://www.bikepoint.com.au/private/details/suzuki-tl1000r-2002-16116461?R=16116461&__Qpb=1&Cr=7&__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32%7c0%7c%7cp_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_HasPhotos_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c%7cp_YearMade_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_PriceSort_Decimal%7c1%7c%7cp_PhotoCount_Int32%7c1&__N=1432 604 1430 1626 1429 1626 1428 4294967268]http://www.bikepoint.com.au/private/details/suzuki-tl1000r-2002-16116461?R=16116461&__Qpb=1&Cr=7&__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32%7c0%7c%7cp_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_HasPhotos_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c%7cp_YearMade_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_PriceSort_Decimal%7c1%7c%7cp_PhotoCount_Int32%7c1&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967268%204294967127&silo=1400&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=14&__sid=142C23674F2E[/url]

Low ks. Nothing to spend.  Recon you would get the price down.
I like the tri colour ones.

ps.  And you can say you bought it for your new Grandson.  Cause when he's old enough it will be worth quite a bit more.  Very Happy
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Post  b12mick on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 11:16 am

If a person rode it and liked it I see no reason not to buy it.

My sister has had 2 VTR1000's and loved them both - she lost the 1st one as part of a divorce settlement and sold the second one in a period of her life when she wasn't riding much and couldn't afford to keep registering it/insuring it.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 12:38 pm

@Hammy wrote:What about this then. 

 [url=http://www.bikepoint.com.au/private/details/suzuki-tl1000r-2002-16116461?R=16116461&__Qpb=1&Cr=7&__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32%7c0%7c%7cp_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_HasPhotos_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c%7cp_YearMade_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_PriceSort_Decimal%7c1%7c%7cp_PhotoCount_Int32%7c1&__N=1432 604 1430 1626 1429 1626 1428 4294967268]http://www.bikepoint.com.au/private/details/suzuki-tl1000r-2002-16116461?R=16116461&__Qpb=1&Cr=7&__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32%7c0%7c%7cp_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_HasPhotos_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cp_Model_String%7c0%7c%7cp_YearMade_Int32%7c1%7c%7cp_PriceSort_Decimal%7c1%7c%7cp_PhotoCount_Int32%7c1&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967268%204294967127&silo=1400&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=14&__sid=142C23674F2E[/url]

Low ks. Nothing to spend.  Recon you would get the price down.
I like the tri colour ones.

ps.  And you can say you bought it for your new Grandson.  Cause when he's old enough it will be worth quite a bit more.  Very Happy
I had saved that bike but its the best part of 10k by the time its on the road in Vic Sad

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Post  mtbeerwah on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 3:51 pm

mate of mine has one, yellow 2000, I like the thing,

handles really well, when I get back on the bandit, it feels like an arm chair, in saying that, I found the VTR to be very comfortable.

it has good power, bandit has a little more, but not worth an argument

the only thing that lets it down is range on a tank full, but it depends what your using it for, fun or distance. Its not like you`ll ever be stranded though.   You may have to think about that if your traveling across N.T
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Post  Ewok1958 on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 6:19 pm

My brother's mate has an older VTR - it goes well but he hates the 200km range (that is because all his mates ride bikes that have 300km range).  Being a Honda, they are likely to be reliable (I think Honda is over the VF by now).

PS: Would the said person consider a Ducati ST3?  Great bike and better than both the ST2 and the ST4.  You've seen my brother Shane's ST3 in action on the Licola Rd.  Not sure about pricing or how it might compare to such things as TLs, SVs, and VTRs.  Shane has never had any issues in 38,000kms.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Thu 05 Dec 2013, 7:27 pm

The person in question had a look and lusten Smile at the VTR1000F today and it ticks all the boxes. Still has original front tyre on it (rock hard) and a newish PR2 on the back. Has gutted original cans with spares for RWC. A couple of small marks on plastic where paint has been rubbed off. Was pissing rain so knocked back a ride but will get one on Sunday. 

Seller wants a dirt bike and for whst it is the price is exceptional and negotiable depending on what's required for RWC. 

This friend could be aboard a Honda for the first time since an XL250 in 82 by next weekend.

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Post  Hammy on Fri 06 Dec 2013, 5:33 am

Well if it " ticks all the boxes "  that just about seals it.  Sounds like your friend may get a new toy.  Wink   Let us know what you thought after the test ride. But be careful of that front hoop.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 3:23 pm

This will be in my garage next weekend. 


Test ride was ok but not spectacular. 
Needs jetting or balance and the front brakes were very ordinary but its all fixable.  

The price was less than I was going to offer in the end so I can afford to work on it and I'm still in front. If it doesn't work out I'll offload it but I'm sure it will be a nice toy.

My first Honda since 1982 and an XL250 Smile 

I need to check eBay for a fuel tanker now Laughing

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Post  Jimmy the Boy on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 3:58 pm

Congratulations mate Very Happy Very Happy !! Gee it looks in good nick. My mate took his to Phil Tainton Racing for a rejet and dyno, after fitting Arrow carbon cans, said it made all the difference. Good on ya mate, Im sure you'll love it. Great toy around the hills.
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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 4:15 pm

@Jimmy the Boy wrote:Congratulations mate Very Happy Very Happy !! Gee it looks in good nick. My mate took his to Phil Tainton Racing for a rejet and dyno, after fitting Arrow carbon cans, said it made all the difference. Good on ya mate, Im sure you'll love it. Great toy around the hills.
Thanks Jimmy and thanks also for your help with sourcing a TLR/S but I think (hope) I've got better value here.

The local Honda dealer (ex SP1 & 2 racer) has asked for a ride to make an assessment.  Says it most definitely will need jetting if its not already done. And it should stop pretty well which it currently doesnt but even a caliper kit won't break the bank. I'll drop it off to him one day next week. 
It's in good nick with 16500km on it and documented 2 owner history and service records which I can't wait to have a closer look at. 

Has a seat cowl and original cans not in photo.

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Post  Ewok1958 on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 5:55 pm

Looks very tidy Chris.  As you said, a few $$ to make it go better and stop but that is really routine stuff.  And the touring bag could come in handy if you venture as far as my place (you're always welcome).
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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 6:01 pm

@Ewok1958 wrote:Looks very tidy Chris.  As you said, a few $$ to make it go better and stop but that is really routine stuff.  And the touring bag could come in handy if you venture as far as my place (you're always welcome).
Thanks Dave.

That would require 2 - 3 fuel stops and thats before jetting Laughing

That trip is better suited to the Bandit Wink

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Post  madmax on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 6:16 pm

Very nice Chris.

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Post  Re-Cycled on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 6:30 pm

@2wheelsagain wrote:This will be in my garage next weekend.


Test ride was ok but not spectacular. 
Needs jetting or balance and the front brakes were very ordinary but its all fixable.  

The price was less than I was going to offer in the end so I can afford to work on it and I'm still in front. If it doesn't work out I'll offload it but I'm sure it will be a nice toy.

My first Honda since 1982 and an XL250 Smile 

I need to check eBay for a fuel tanker now Laughing
Looks good, but isn't it the wrong colour. Smile

Be interesting to get your feedback once you get it sorted. All the best, mate.

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Post  2wheelsagain on Mon 09 Dec 2013, 6:41 pm

Yes Peter it IS the wrong colour (and make Laughing) but its better than the teal VTR I had lined up to look at today Surprised

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