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Post  gus Sat 06 Apr 2013, 5:35 am

This bike scam thing go when you sell a bike . (gumtree or E-bay )
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Post  Ross. Sat 06 Apr 2013, 8:07 am

So the Bandit is on the out then hey.

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Post  barry_mcki Sat 06 Apr 2013, 9:32 am

My method when dealing with Gum Tree sales is to disregard:
. phone text messages, why can't they talk to you ?
. anything that mentions Western Union, used in almost all scams
. anything that says they are from overseas, big red flag
. anything that says "don't sell to anyone else", they don't want an honest buyer to grab their cash cow.

If you can substitute any word for the item being sold in their reply message and it still makes sense, more than likely it has been an automatic generated response from a scammer.

If they really want the bike they will come to you. I've sold heaps of stuff on Gum Tree, it's great as it allows you free photos, you just have to weed out the scum that troll around trying to ripoff the unwary.

Good luck.


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Post  SuzySuzuki Sat 06 Apr 2013, 9:21 pm

I tried Bikesales, had a few enquiries, and would have sold the honda months ago, except morons calling from the city were expecting me to ride it to THEM.I offered half way meeting, noone came to the party.
Gumtree is owned by Ebay, and way too many idiots on there are trying to sell secondhand helmets, shows you how smart they all are.

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Post  Sloth_27 Sun 07 Apr 2013, 5:00 pm

One of the scams is trying to rip off the middle man (ie. Paypal or Western Union) or whatever.

http://helpcentre.carsales.com.au/scam-defence/false-enquiries/

Basically, if they say the don't want to view the bike and don't care about negotiating on price and just want to transfer money straight away, it is probably a false enquiry.
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Post  gus Sun 07 Apr 2013, 8:05 pm

Still carnt see how a scammer ends up with the bike without paying or just cash .
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Post  ThatOtherGuy Mon 08 Apr 2013, 4:48 am

the basic simple scam works like this. they pay via paypal and say they will send a third party to collect, say a courier or tow person. they then claim you released the goods to the wrong person as they do not have the goods. they file a paypal refund claim and of course actually do have the goods and now their money.

another one is they overpay for the item and seek a rushed repayment of the overpaid amount from you before the original funds are cleared. you pay with cleared funds, their funds bounce, you lose.

there's lots of variations, but basically if it smells suspicious, it probably is. if I ever sell anything this way, its good old cash only or direct deposit to my account only. if you let a third party like paypal get involved you are subject to their T&Cs.
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Post  gus Mon 08 Apr 2013, 6:03 am

Got it ,thanks . Nothing for sale but curious .Hows the recovery going ?Very Happy
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Post  ThatOtherGuy Mon 08 Apr 2013, 7:06 am

well thanks, been out of hospital for about 6 weeks now. going through my motorcycle gear shortly to work out what Bandit stuff I have to sell. also selling both the other motorbikes as it looks like even after the recovery, if I get my license back I will not be able to physically ride due to some of the injuries I have. when I say if I get my license back, I haven't actually lost it, the police have determined that they will not issue any TINs, but I currently have a medical exclusion and I am not allowed to drive. if they cannot determine the cause of the medical issue that caused the accident, then I may have to give up my license for medical reasons.
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Post  gus Mon 08 Apr 2013, 9:00 am

When I had a heart attack a few years back (4?) I kind of went through the same thoughts .Don't do anything drastic like sell the best bike . The
body and mind have a great healing powers , its just hard to see it when everything hurts .As my mate Jud Greedy had tattooed on his arm
"pain is temporary ". Doctors know fuck all about bikes , or their healing powers .
Hang in there ,and if you don't come to visit soon i'll break both of your legs AGAIN .Very Happy
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Post  Hammy Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:19 pm

Well said Gus. Yes, your still young TOG and have plenty of years ahead of you. Hope your getting stronger by the day mate.
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